you can do anything with mods. Of course, in RL there is no way a VIIB/C could get anywhere close to that depth without risking severe and probably irreversible hull damage.

btw, what mod are you using?

Hello,
first i do not know why Blair sometimes writes what he writes, i think he got some reports wrong. U-96 did neither try to sneak through Gibraltar with Buchheim aboard, nor was Buchheim aboard a submarine at the bottom near Gibraltar - at least that is what i read, by B. himself.
Do not take the novel "Das Boot" for completely real, and surely not the film (rivets giving in, in a welded boat ?). For all i have read Johann's reaction seem badly exagerrated, as well general discipline aboard those boats was high, even if the tone itself was sometimes un-militarily. More a kind of respect regarding the other's capabilities. This does not mean that the captain did not indeed have a pistol, and was allowed to use it in cases of mutiny or critical situations. For what has been written, it was never used.

Second, the 338 meters are from Tiesenhausen's log book, partly published in (among others) Frank's "Die Woelfe und der Admiral". The U-331 went down at a steep angle, so the bow may have been deeper than the central part of the boat, anyway a good 300 meters seem believable.

Greetings,
Catfish

Bilge rat@ I use the stock game

got only the antilag file that i placed into the game noting else.

I don't know Clay Blair, but Wikipedia too mentions U 96, to have been on the ground twice, but "only" between 50 and 70 m.

("Das tatsächliche U 96 lag ebenfalls nach einem Angriff vor Gibraltar - sogar zweimal - auf Grund. Allerdings in weniger "dramatischen" Tiefen von 50 m und 70 m")

However, 280 m are beliveable, if you take all accounts together.

I wouldn't trust Wikipedia for anything beyond pop culture. :down:

Clay Blair is the author of the wonderful two volume series, Hitler's U-Boat War, Vol. one The Hunters, 1939-1942 (1,700 pages not counting tables and Appendices) and Vol. two, The Hunted, 1942_1945 (1,714 pages, again not counting tables and appendices).

From a listing of primarary and secondary sources the author has given us U-boat fans 3,414 pages of rattling good, page turning, accurate history. Go check it out on Amazon. I highly reccomend it!

"An admirable and important book..........Should become the standard history of the Unterseeboote for many years"
_Russel F. Weigley, The Washington Post"

NOTE: Use the Amazon link at the bottom of this page and if you decide to buy it then our SubSim Forum will get a bit of financial credit.

Not to mention Silent Victory: The US Submarine War Against Japan, preceding the other two and every bit as good, MacArthur: Korea and the Undoing of an American Hero, on which the Gregory Peck movie was based, and several other equally good books.