Agreed, while I think media sensationalization is definitely at work here, Santorum is the one that has made this public discourse in the first place - and in fact has made it impossible for this to not be public discourse, because he has used it to illustrate his position on public policy as an elected official. So, sorry, while this is distasteful, I have no sympathy for Santorum's privacy and feelings here - he chose to take this beyond private business and doesn't deserve to be treated sensitively over it. Granted, this isn't what we should be focusing on when discussing politics, of course.

Lo siento T and C.

I did not involve myself in that race, so I did not have knowledge of the fact. If it is as you state, than no.

Well, lets see if and how it is rehashed in the media. The MSM gave Obama a pass with his relationships to Rezko, Wright, and Ayers.

They had a road map and chose to throw it in the garbage.

There is nothing arrogant and pathetic about pointing out that someone is sounbalanced to bring a dead body home to "meet" the family. Grief is a powerful emotion but rational, sane people do not even react this way when grieving where as people who are irrational and not exactly sane normally(Santorum's much espoused religious views show he is not exactly rational to begin with) This fool brought a dead body home! Sure it was a baby, but remove the emotion attached to it being a child "it's a baby" is a not an excuse for crazy behavior from anyone, let a lone a Presidential candidate.

Bubbles, you are really showing yourself up.
while a few people have touched on why it may be a story you are just demonstrating that you are totally clueless.

Does not matter how old it is, it happened and needs to be out there.Most sane people who maybe even considered him(I was one, sad to say, even though I despise his absurd religious views, I may have swallowed the lump in my throat and voted for him over Romney, we just can't run Romney against Barry) but this story, pointed out by a friend while were discussing things over a nice bottle of single malt:yeah:, is just beyond disturbing.Normal civilized , rational people would not bring the dead body of a stillborn home, sorry.This man belongs in a padded white room, not the white house and does not even need to be close to the nomination or VP slot, which is what I think he has been angling for all along honestly, VP.

Tribes, you will fight anything I say on here even when the fair and rational minded such as Takeda(who even when I disagree, I respect because he has reason behind it unlike you), it's personal for you, get a life.

Showing myself up? No, I am pointing out what an irrational rube and fool Santorum is.Nuts like him make us conservatives who have beliefs that are rational and in line with reality look like fools.Santorum would cost us four more years of Obama is he was the nominee, because even if things are still terrible economic wise(they will be, prob worst, watch and see) people will be turned off by Santorums idiocy.

I despise the MSM for giving Obama a pass on his shady past(you just mentioned the well known stuff), it alone should have kept him out of the white house.There is a difference between being a shady chicago political left wing hack and being an irrational nutjob like Santorum.

Pointing out one's dangerous flaws is a healthy part of politics.Only really negative when it's not true or the truth is stretched and things are not portrayed accurately.This is not a negative attack on Santorum, it is 100% true and it is pointing out a huge flaw, he is a irrational nut who brought a dead baby home to "meet" the family.:damn:

I'm not talking about Santorum, but politics in general over there. :salute:

Like I implied, you are simply talking out of your arse.
In case you didn't notice Takeda who you think agrees with you put in some qualifications which you seem totally oblivious to.
I never thought I would defend a prick like Santorum.(only of course defending his actions not his politicising of those actions), but in this case you are so far over the line of ignorance that it simply needs saying.
Maybe when you grow up and see a bit more of life(and death) you may perhaps understand why you are most definately being a pillock on this paricular issue.

You haven't been there so you dont know what was in his head at the time ,If you had you wouldn't even be posting this so called "story" - have you got any idea what people go through when this happens? ,any idea of the hell a couple go through with this? ,any idea of the fear you go through EVERY day of the next pregnancy hoping it doesn't happen again? ,and the fear when your wife starts having pre-eclampsia and the baby has to be delivered 4 and a half weeks early with an emergency c-section!

This story doesn't say sod all about the man but it says volumes about you and the things your prepared to post and beat up because you dont like the guy!


I'm sorry if anyone else finds this post offensive but I had to vent about bubbleheads post and attitude with this - my eldest would have been 14 this year ,despite what some people think it never leaves you ,it just gradually hurts less over the years ,and for someone to cheapen that is disgusting!

First, I am sorry about what happened and imagine the pain is great nor does it ever never really go away.However, it is not excuse to act like an irrational fool such as the way Santorum did.Bringing a dead stillborn child home is just out of the bounds of rational, sane behavior that is needed in life esp from someone who is aspiring to be the President.Obviously he can not handle his grief properly, I know people who have lost children, babies and those older, they were miserable and took them a long time to even seem normal again BUT they did not lose their marbles and act like a fool.Santorums behavior is an offshot of his religious zeal, which is another sign that he lacks a clear and rational thought process.

Damn it, I could see if his wife wanted to do it, she is a the woman, her body chemistry changes, hormones etc and she just delievered a child who is dead.This is where he is supposed to be the MAN and stop crazy ideas like 'lets bring the dead child home to play with the kids" but he obviously can not handle strees, grief etc very well either so there was no one there to be a buffer.

I am sure this sounds cold hearted and I get it, this is not a personal thing against Santorum.I was willing to ignore some of his crazy religious stuff because he would be a clear alternative to Romney and Obama.However, once I read into his depth of irrational thought...such as making US law based on "gods law" and his crazy anti abortion stances in addition to the "bring a dead baby home" program, well it's over for him.The word must be spread about him before we wind up with him as the nominee because he would get slaughtered in the general, even with a terrible economy.Obama would be seen as the lesser of two evils and honestly, as much as it pains me to say it, he prob would be.

I have seen death, I don't let my emotions overrule rational though.Ignorance? No ignorance here, I am aware a stillborn baby is a sad thing and people do grieve differently.However, there is a line and bringing a dead baby home is crossing it.Not normal or rational, I guess if some joe blow nobody does it, well ok I guess(still crazy and not right) but this guy is running for President and it s a nut, story needs to spread to stop any further rise of him before he costs us the election.

He has Extra-Sensory Perception?

So speaks the bigot.

Actually it just sounds childish and ignorant.

Do all college graduate law students have this much trouble with the English language? To me this is more symptomatic of what's wrong with the world than anything Santorum does. Childish rants and tirades get you no credit in any debate. You sound like Archie Bunker.

"Damn it, I could see if his wife wanted to do it, she is a the woman, her body chemistry changes, hormones etc and she just delievered a child who is dead.This is where he is supposed to be the MAN and stop crazy ideas like 'lets bring the dead child home to play with the kids" but he obviously can not handle strees, grief etc very well either so there was no one there to be a buffer."

So the wife can be all emotional but the husband has to be a "Man" and just suck it up and ignore it? ,you seriously don't have a clue! ,there are two people in a couple and they Both need support when things like this happen!, most couple were husband does the "Manly" thing end up separating because of the stress on the relationship!

It doesn't matter what anyone posts in this thread, you just wont get it so I think it's time to stick you on ignore and walk away before I post something that'll get me banned.

You are not demonstrating any rational thought at all, in fact your emotions over silly politics sent you way off into loony land long ago.

You really havn't got a clue have you:down:

Just saying the man should to be the rock in that situation, may not be easy but should to prevent looney, emotional decisions from being made.Sorry if you don't like the truth.

What a stupid comment. As if someone's political leanings have anything to do with it.

I am pro choice and an atheist so suppose I get lumped in with the libs from time to time(whihc is ironic because I pretty much despise liberals otherwise) by those who do not know any better.I would rather be a godless liberal than a religious fool who ignores reality and believes in the big magic man in the sky.

No, not throw the baby in the dumpster but have the body sent to a funeral home and have a proper service, you know? Like normal, rational thinking people do when they grieve, not take it home like an irrational fool.

Hmm tribes, so not rational to suggest something crazy like sending the baby to a funeral home and not taking it home for a play date?