Its on voluntary base but since 99% of time the passengers are hardcore orthodox then its besides the point.
Its a case of status quo-they do their stuff in religious neighborhoods and secular in their own.
That's Jerusalem.....

NYC is different case.
As the NYC mayor put it-They can buy their own buses.

I simply hate how those things turn in to Jews do this... do that issue... because of ww2... blah ...blah.
If anyone can turn those anti Zionists into scientist and doctors ill be glad to know how it can be done.:haha:

It is supposed to be on a voluntary basis, the court cases have arisen because some of the orthodox and some of the buses won't accept voluntary segregation, they want it as enforced segregation.
Are you saying its an apartheid State?:03:

Actually its the same, in both cases the problem is that they are running a public bus service, it doesn't matter who owns the vehicles it only matters what they are operating them as.

No i said that in Jerusalem we live as as we chose.
There are closed places where you cant drive car on shabbat and places where you can party all night.

Freedom of choice eh. Bit of a bugger if you have different views from the people down the road though.
We have been through this before with you denying that the religious extremists burn down business premesis outside "their" neighbourhoods(which itself is funny as starting a fire on Shabbat is supposed to be a no no:03:)


Yet the violent nuts come out of Mea Shearim and Guela and attack people and property in other neighbourhoods for not following their religious views, indeed they attack the police for trying to enforce the natons laws because in their apartheid view their little pure state is above Israel and its laws.
But hey observance of religious laws are voluntary ain't they, just like segregation on the buses:nope:

It is a privately CONTRACTED bus by the city - which pays the contract from the public coffer - so it is recieving public funds, one way or the other.

As the bus is "public" - it would serve the public at large. As a public transportation vehicle, it would be illegal to refuse to pick up a member of the general public based on them not being part of a "specific population" group.

If this is happening - the bus contractor has stepped in the cowpie.

In my opinion the signs in those busses are illegal, but it will not be easy to blame the bus company, as the passengers insisted on the change of seats. The driver could be blamed for not enforcing anti-discrimination laws by not having taken action.

The original article, linked in the BBC article, stated that the bus company is not a contractor but a franchise taker, which pays the city for the license to operate the line.
However it still falls under the MTA authority and thus is bound to their laws which forbid segregation.


As someone who traditionally likes to ride in the back, I have a question: What would happen if I sat in the back, would the women insist on a seat change, would the males regard me as a traitor? Or would they just see me as a weird tourist guy? :88)

Yep, or just buy the women a cab ride, where they sit in the back :cool:

It's the same we see in all the other threads, e.g. the Tea Party/Occupy thing: blame them all for some goofballs in their rows.

Btw: I am a former anti-zionist, who will hold a scientific degree (hopefully) soon. :know:

I cant remember business burning in last 10 years.
There are pubs and restaurants opened on shabbat in Jerusalem.
The catch is that those restaurants will not have kosher certificate from rabbinate...
It seems its good for the business anyway.:up:

Sometime some hardcore Ultra orthodox Jews come out of their hoods and do some mess over various stupid issues.
Throwing diapers and burning trashcans while calling police nazis-yep holy jihad takes over Jerusalem..you win....:damn:



Orthodox are troublesome and complex issue for Israelis but not for any of the reasons you brought about.
Wish it was the greatest of problems here.

:hmmm:
ZIS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED UNDER ZE THIRD REICH!
ok, ok very poor taste i know - sorry. :oops:
Im not good at PCness.

I have never been on those super ultra kosher buses so i cant say- have no business there and no reason for that.
all i can say that if you sat next to woman she would probably run for her life and take on acceptable distance from you...
You could be asked to to change seat then situation might escalate into name calling if you don't follow the rules.
My religious friend had an issue like that when he took front seat together with his wife on ultra kosher bus.
He said it was unpleasant and idiotic situation.
He made his way on the bus by mistake having no practical idea about them.
In his view ultra orthodoxy's modesty concepts are totally out of context.
Actually all this bus separation is relatively new concept-some attribute it the fact that non religious undress themselves lately too much therefore its getting difficult for modesty observant ultra orthodox to deal with this progress.




That's cool.
You have taken a tight turn in life...to the dark side lol.:salute:

LOL :DL

You read minds :hmmm: