I'd say any sort of gun firing is dangerous, to be honest. It's just a matter of degree.

I asked because celebration shootings also happen often in the USA, hence the availability question in stores. Ordering from the web would need more pre-planning.
If I had a tendency to shoot my guns out of joy while being drunk, I'd prefer to load them with blanks before - but I guess most people who do this do not think much about that ;)

:hmmm: I've often witnessed weapons firing blanks, even full-auto rifles, never saw one with a blank fire adapter outside the military. I have only once seen a gun, a thompson, that had firing problems with blanks though, but for film shooting the effects are more important than a temporary malfunction.

[QUOTE=August;1734060]I wouldn't want to be hit by a badly thrown punch for that matter but once a bullet or anything else has bled off it's initial velocity it's not very dangerous at all.[/QUO


That would work out fine if the bullet truly had bleed off its energy but if it has not :dead:.I am gong to assume that the guy fired a bullet say like a .223 but he fired it at say 45 deg then that bullet is going to simply arc and come back down while it is still deadly at some point.true it may not be the normal ballistics but there are still many angles where it will not bled of its velocity enough to be safe.

I don't understand what you are trying to say. If you intend to prove that bullets fired from a gun are not that dangerous when falling back to Earth, then I am sorry you can talk internet physics all you like. They kill people. Many have died from them, period. You can't rationalize that away.

Here are 3 from the last 6 years or so that were in the US
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/4084756/detail.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4568568.stm
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/22105604/detail.html

You can say they are "not very dangerous at all" as much as you like. These not very dangerous things have a bad habit of killing people they hit.

The need for a blank adapter depends on how much 'blow back gas' is needed to operate the bolt.
I don't believe the Thompson SM used gas like an M16 does.

Also, HollyWood Guns maybe specially 'fixed' so you would not need the bulky blank adapter you had while in Service.

Did you know that if a guy grabs the muzzle of an M16 with no blank adapter,
and grips it tight enuff,
it WILL Rock-n-Roll on full Auto!!
:haha:

Ask me how I know!! I dare you!
:D

A story told by your old Army buddy, No-Face McGee? :D

There you go. A matter of degree.

He is talking about a bullet that has expended all of its energy and is coming back down to earth at terminal velocity which for any bullet is not deadly it would be like a rock getting tossed at you maybe.The only problem is that the barrel must be perfectly vertical for that to happen.If not it could be deadly if the angle and the ballistics work out which they can.Though as I said I dont think very many people have truly been hit by the type of shooting I am talking about.

It is very common for some reason for police and doctors to list a person killed or injured by a bullet and the source of said bullet is unknown to credit it as having come from the air so you cant rely on that many people get shot and do not want to say who shot them or witnesses dont want to say so you get "the sky bullet".

:har:

like the old joke how the guy from the sawmill orders 10 beers:
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/9...wingtwofin.jpg

No, not perfectly vertical. Actually it can be fired at any angle as long as it has expended it's velocity. As long as it's still travelling laterally it has not expended all it's energy, although as Tchocky said it's a matter of degree.

You're right about the unknown origin bullets though.

Another one that doesn't get physics:doh:
Do you even know what terminal velocity means Stealhead?

Your crazy man. Yeah the Thompson uses blow back.I think the adapter is needed more with gas tube and gas piston systems becasue the all AKs and derivatives also use blank adapters. http://centerfiresystems.com/Product...K/AK-BFA-B.jpg

I always wondered this maybe you know why seems to me that during exercises belt feed weapons like the M-60,240,249 they never seemed to feed very well using blanks maybe it is the weaker blank causing that?

I believe it is a combination of that and fouling faster because of the increased rate of fire. Even popping off a magazine or two with our old M-16s would gunk them up pretty good.

:haha:
Nope. Gallant Eagle '82. The Death Drop!

I was a Scout Patrol Leader and captured an APC with full Crew.
According to the ROE (Rules of Engagement) they had to allow us to take them back to a detainment area.

I was in the Commander's Copula when they decided to try an escape.
(Against the rules!)
The stupid 1st LT reached up and grabbed the muzzle of my M16 which had no adapter on it.

I had blanks loaded and pulled the trigger!
:o
30 rounds later? I had a bit of flesh attached to the end of that Weapon,
he had some VERY nasty burns to his hands!!
:haha:

We dropped some Tear Gas inside the APC and laughed our behinds off
then the Judges showed up and told those Army Reserves they could not try what they did!

Once We got that APC to the detainment area?
The biggest Mexican S.O.B. looking guy I've ever seen came after me because of the burns to his Lt!
:o

He took my M16 away from me like it was nothing as I back stepped to get a stance!
(It had nothing but blanks anyway)
The 2 Custom Made Fighting knifes that came off my Gear sure gave him a lot of reasons to stop dead in his tracks though!
:har:

I told him just how I felt at that moment.
He stopped after I spoke to him.
I don't recall the exact words but I still know to this day I would have sliced and diced him had he came any closer to me.
:nope:
The Lt. did come up to me later and apologized for both of them.
And I did sit down with that big Mexican S.O.B. and share a drink with him!
(All AirBorne carry a flask)
:up:

No I ain't crazy.
I don't know the Thompson that well so it's operation is unknown to me.
All I know is mostly Gas Tube Weapons.

Every Gas Tube Weapon suffers from clogs to the Gas Tube when fireing Blanks that I'm aware of.
The reason is is that you are shoveing the spent powder back down the Tube!

The M16 does not show this as quick as it is not usually fired on full Auto all the time. (If you know what the heck your doing!)

The M-60 and such fire full Auto ALL the time!
Plus they have a bit bigger round/load thus a quicker clog factor.

Well your story changed my mind I had it pictured you holding an M-16 with one hand the other on the muzzle blasting away for some reason Rambo style.We had M-16A2s so full auto was not an option.

One funny thing about the Air Force was even in the late 1990s at least where I was stationed there where still some M16A1/M203 combos in use.In the AF you get issued a different weapon each day when you go to the armory and I was qualified on the M203 so if the regular cops found this out they'd make me carry it around in stead of themselves and one time the armor issues me and I see that it is an A1 (the A1 has a different rear sight and a different flash suppressor) I say what is this something left over from the Tet Offensive?

How do you maintain a zero?

Didn't they do a study that proved a bullet at terminal velocity can't do much harm unless it hits the middle of the top of your head?

The problem with gunshoot celebrations is there's always a couple of dipwads who forget which direction UP is.:know:

Oh, and then add alcohol. :damn:

This.

Besides, I want the firearm I cleaned and oiled back.