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MH it's easily explained. Tribesman is not trolling just because he enjoys being an obnoxious twit. It appears to me it's simply one island of religious terrorists supporting another island of religious terrorists. It's all they know, it's what they grew up with and are taught as children by their governments and self apointed self rightoues religious leaders. They actually think they are doing something good by seeking your destruction.

Im sure it will all be in the name of freedom and democracy :rolleyes:

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...lo-mural04.jpg

Divis Street, Falls, Belfast; December 2002.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...lo-mural12.jpg

Rossville Street, Bogside, Derry; December 2002,

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Many Irish Catholics have aligned themselves with Palestinians for decades. They have not only placed Palestinian flags alongside Republic of Ireland flags in countless Belfast neighborhoods, but in some of their famous building-sized murals they have also featured Gerry Adams with the likes of Yasser Arafat as well as Nelson Mandela

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...lo-mural01.gif

Mural, Beechmount Avenue, Belfast, 1982

Ireland's participation in terrorists activities and ill will towards Israel has been in the making for a very long time. Now we know what motivates some people.

http://www.crethiplethi.com/the-iris...n/israel/2010/

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 1733287)

MH it easily explained. Tribesman is not trolling as one might think. He really believes this drivel and most likely hates you and your country. It appears to me it's simply one island of religious terrorists supporting another island of religious terrorists.

It's all they know, it's what they grew up with and are taught as children by their governments and self apointed self rightoues religious leaders. They actually think they are doing God service by seeking your destruction.

http://www.crethiplethi.com/wp-conte...lo-mural04.jpg

Divis Street, Falls, Belfast; December 2002.

http://www.crethiplethi.com/wp-conte...lo-mural12.jpg

Rossville Street, Bogside, Derry; December 2002,

http://www.crethiplethi.com/the-iris...n/israel/2010/

I know that Ireland is one of most anti Israeli countries in Europe.
More or less i'm aware of few things.
Just wanted to find out whats behind Tribesman logic.

Nice pic....looks like some familiar places....

Logic? None that I'm aware of. Like I said it's simply one island of religious terrorists supporting another.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1733222)

The point is that it wasn't, which is why he should point out what he percieved as innacurate so it can be addressed.
If he objects to a statement and calls it based on imaginary events then he should have no difficulty specifying whaich parts were not true.....if he is interested in honest debate of course.
The problem being simply that he knows it is but it doesn't sit well for his arguement.

He provided a link. If it's wrong you need to show why. Making fun of somebody doesn't make you right.

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 1733296)

Logic? None that I'm aware of. Like I said it's simply one island of religious terrorists supporting another.

The guy is radical and holds back a lot.
The way he would not accept simple things brought me to conclusion that his logic is based on plain "religious like" blind ideology.
Sort of like the "flotilla" guys that will kiss "hamas" for peace and prosperity in whole Palestine.

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Abbas deserves no state
Op-ed: World should be greatly concerned by Palestinian leaders’ silence over terror offensive Avi Dichter Published: 08.19.11, 23:17

A moment before Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas approaches the UN with a statehood bid, we would expect the PA chairman to make a statement addressing the grave terror attack against Israeli citizens en route to Eilat. Something along the lines of “we shall hunt down the perpetrators and masterminds of the murderous attack and bring them to justice.” After all, in our region one pays no excise tax on words. Yet the silence of the chairman and of his Prime Minister, Salam Fayyad, must worry the whole world – and that includes the UN General Assembly.
Israel Responds to AttacksPM vows additional retaliation / Attila SomfalviNetanyahu visits wounded soldiers in Soroka, tells them Gaza strikes were 'initial response'to attacks
How did the Abbas-Fayyad duo sell the notion of reconciliation with Hamas to the world? This pseudo-reconciliation is exploding in our faces. We are witnessing the de facto reality of a third terror state between us and Egypt, with the Palestinian Authority’s disregard constituting no less than evasion of responsibility. As Abbas views himself as the leader of a state, the world must demand explanations from him over Thursday’s terror offensive.
Egypt, which was the matchmaker and maid of honor in the Fatah-Hamas unity deal, is conspicuous in its failure to avert a despicable terror act launched from its territory against Israelis in Israeli territory. The arms smuggling to Gaza via the Sinai has turned since the Egypt revolution into orderly transfers of weapons and ammunition, including the anti-tank missile fired during Thursday’s offensive.
The Sinai Peninsula has turned into a crossing point for terror groups. Jihad leaders refer to the area as “Sinai tours,” yet these trips are used to transfer rockets fired at Israel from Gaza, exactly like the one fired at Ashkelon last night, forcing me and other 120,000 local residents to head into secure rooms.
Hezbollah spirit in south
The kind of terrorism we experienced in the south Thursday points mostly to the “Hezbollahization” of Gaza terror groups – with us being the main victims. A murderous terror attack perpetrated by more than 10 terrorists at several locations indicates that Hezbollah’s spirit headed south. Israel must receive operative answers from Egypt before the latter turns into a Lebanon-style state that cannot thwart anti-Israel terror organizations.
The Sinai has turned into a no man’s land while Egypt turns a blind eye. Hence, it must be called to order by Israel and the states of the world. We must not go easy on Egypt in respect to the responsibility it holds on this front. Cairo signed an agreement calling for a peaceful border with us and is obligated to fully adhere to its part of the bargain.
Last but not least is Hamas, which took over Gaza in a military coup four years ago, thereby turning itself into the address for Israel’s message following every attack. The “mailman” must work overtime after the murderous offensive in Eilat, resorting to surgical strikes and making the rules of play clear to Hamas.

It is vital that Hamas understand that the ruling power it violently stole from the PA includes obligations towards Israel. At some point, we’ll have to destroy the group’s military infrastructure in Gaza anyway, mostly because it appears that nobody else intends to do it. Once our Iron Dome arsenal grows, the planning and possible execution of a Gaza campaign would be much more practical. Until then, we must curb terror and eliminate the terrorists. The thought that it’s easier to harm us from the Sinai must be uprooted and neutralized, whether through the planned fence or via military operations.

Knesset Member Avi Dichter is the former Shin Bet chief and currently heads the Knesset Subcommittee for Security Perception and the Building of Forces

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:rotfl2:@Steve

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He provided a link.

No he didn't.

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If it's wrong you need to show why.

He made a statement, that was challenged as wrong on several levels and he was unable to address any of it.

@ rockster

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MH it's easily explained.

Yet you obviously are unable to.
Indeed I can safely say you are talking total bollox.
You could however prove me wrong, all you need is a single statement by me simply supporting terrorists or calling for the destruction of Israel.
Given all the posts i have made relating to terrorism and Israel it should be easy for you...unless of course you are talking total crap.

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It appears to me it's simply one island of religious terrorists supporting another island of religious terrorists.

errrr.... which islands?:har::har::har::har::har:

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It's all they know, it's what they grew up with and are taught as children by their governments and self apointed self rightoues religious leaders.

Are you living in a bubble in some strange fantasy land. BTW your pictures are from the wrong place, I don't want to get you too confused over geography but perhaps try and find out what you are talking about before you make more silly statements:rotfl2:

Nice link BTW. so nice of you to provide one, unlike MH:03:
wow a writer from PJMedia that bastion of integrity.
Nice, perhaps you shouldn't have as a headline of "glenn beck is right" doesn't float to well when Israeli media is running articles about him being a jew hating bigot who is a ranting demagouge that is clueless about Israel and the middle east...a prime example of someone claiming to be Israels "friend" when they are really their enemy:yep:.

@MH

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The guy is radical and holds back a lot.

No MH, it is just that you are unable to deal with what is written and either invent an imaginary position for someone ....or unfortunately all too frequently come up with some of the most ridiculous falsehhoods to try and make a case that you know simply doesn't stand.

But hey you finally provided text .:up:
Bit of a problem though, the world should be greatly concerned that the PA gave up waiting and joined in a unity government.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1733346)

You see tribesman there are no issues to deal with because you actually never change me with anything.Most stuff you write is just bull.
I can write those smart ass meaningless "challenging" statements just about any topic.
Your style of conversation may work with some little kids.
Still its fun sometimes to dance with you.:rotfl2:that's why you are not on my ignore list.
And no i don't post links to prove my case.
I don't like those stupid google link wars.

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You see tribesman there are no issues to deal with because you actually never change me with anything.

I know, as I said before you have a bunker mentality.

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Most stuff you write is just bull.

If that were the case you could show it to be so, but instead it is you who is repeatedly unable to back up your statements and you who is often shown to be simply lying.

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I can write those smart ass meaningless "challenging" statements just about any topic.

I know, you often do, but you get stuck when it comes to meanigfull statements that are not even that challenging.

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Your style of conversation may work with some little kids.

If that were true then it should work on a bunker mentality:rotfl2:

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Still its fun sometimes to dance with you.

Its fun to watch you try and attack comments made about your statements when you are so frequently completely unable to defend your statement itself or attack the actual comment that was made about it.

Isn't it funny that all your ranting in this topic started over a post saying that Israel like any other nation should try and get its facts straight before it makes a comment on an issue that may be contentious.
Cue the instant bunker mentality:doh:

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And no i don't post links to prove my case.

Don't tell me, tell steve:03:

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I don't like those stupid google link wars.

Same, which is why I rarely post any links.
But BTW have you been keeping up with the IDF link you were introduced to, it is rather good for news in your errr..."local expertise"

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1733398)

I know, as I said before you have a bunker mentality.
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LOL regression time.:har:

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1733398)

Same, which is why I rarely post any links.
But BTW have you been keeping up with the IDF link you were introduced to, it is rather good for news in your errr..."local expertise"

No never.
IDF used to be more of reality to me.
You are welcomed though and enjoy.

Israel and Hamas agree Gaza truce, officials say

Israel and Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group which governs the Gaza Strip, say they have agreed to a ceasefire after five days of violence.

The latest clashes began when militants crossed into southern Israel and killed eight Israelis on Thursday.

Subsequent Israeli air strikes on Gaza killed 15 Palestinians. One Israeli was killed in rocket fire from Gaza.

The Quartet of Middle East peace mediators - the UN, US, EU and Russia - has called for restraint.
Informal truce

A Palestinian official said that Hamas had agreed to ensure that the ceasefire was recognised by smaller militant groups in Gaza - which were responsible for most of the rockets fired at southern Israel in the past few days.

Prior to the announcement, Israeli media reported that 12 rockets launched from the Gaza Strip landed in southern Israel overnight. No injuries resulted.

But on Monday, Gaza's Popular Resistance Committees (PRC) - last to agree to the truce - agreed to halt rocket fire against Israel as a "temporary" measure "for the sake of the Palestinian people".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14614731

Note: Update Record,22 August 2011 Last updated at 12:28 GMT

:hmmm: no protests about rockets from Gaza that hit Egyptian soil? http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...fc4eb7dc2c7.61

And what a surprise form the Arab League! Of course they come together and condemn Israel's retaliation, but no word about >100 rockets fired on Israel during the weekend...:damn:

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1734086)

Why not? It's a tactic that has served them rather well.

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1734090)

Why not? It's a tactic that has served them rather well.

It serves them in showing what hypocrites and liars they are. They have more interest to show the world how much the Palestinians are oppressed rather than helping them.
The worst enemy of the Palestinians are the Islamic countries.

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1734105)

It serves them in showing what hypocrites and liars they are.

Maybe to you and me but there are plenty of people, some there on this forum, that will be only too happy to take it as truth.

The worst enemies of the Palestinians - are the Palestinians themselves.

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1734108)

The worst enemies of the Palestinians - are the Palestinians themselves.

There's a lot of truth to that.

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1734086)

Not suprised at all...the region is party to all sides.

Israel and Hamas agree Gaza truce,

Israel and Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group which governs the Gaza Strip, are said to have agreed to a ceasefire after five days of violence.

However the Israeli army says one missile was fired by militants from Gaza overnight.

The latest clashes began when militants crossed into southern Israel and killed eight Israelis on Thursday.

Subsequent Israeli air strikes on Gaza killed 15 Palestinians. One Israeli was killed in rocket fire from Gaza.

The Quartet of Middle East peace mediators - the UN, US, EU and Russia - called for restraint.
Informal truce

A Palestinian official said that Hamas had agreed to ensure that the ceasefire was recognised by smaller militant groups in Gaza - which were responsible for most of the rockets fired at southern Israel in the past few days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14614731

Note: Update Record,23 August 2011 Last updated at 08:59 GMT