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Falkirion 07-14-11 05:47 PM

Its a good law to have. As with others on the board I'm a smoker who has quit. I dont have kids but I never smoked behind the wheel because the nicotine messed with my brain. I didn't like the feeling of being behind the wheel and having my perception a little bit messed up.

Madox58 07-14-11 06:06 PM

I'm a Smoker but I consider myself a responsible Smoker.
I do not smoke around non-smokers unless I move well away from them.
I do not smoke in my own vehicles if a non-smoker is in it.
I do not ever throw down the butts.
I don't even smoke in my own home if a non-smoker visits.
I would never consider smokeing in a non-smokers home/vehicle!

I find it sad that others just don't get it and there is a need to force them to wake the freak up!

Blacklight 07-14-11 06:06 PM

I agree with that proposed law and fully support it. Smoking in a car with a kid in it is like sticking the kid in a closed garage with the car running. The health hazzards of second hand smoke have been proven time and time again, not to mention the horrible smell.
I would even go far enough to say that smokers should be banned from smoking in apartment buildings as well. While I don't care what smokers do in their own homes, when their smoke comes from their home and completely fumigates MY home, there's a problem. If a neighbor has a water leak and it comes into my apartment, I expect it to be fixed so the water doesn't come into my apartment and ruin things. When my neighbors (who smoke like chimneys) puff away, the smell is getting into my apartment and my stuff. Moving out is NOT an option because we're dirt poor. Apartments are communal living spaces. Just the same as smoking is banned from resturaunts, office buildings, etc (also communal), it should be banned from apartment buildings as well.
Let the deluge of "You can't tell me what to do or not do in my home !!" begin. :DL

Madox58 07-14-11 06:10 PM

If the neighbors smoke is getting into your dwelling?
You live in a piece 'o crap building!
Which does not surprise me with today's accepted building standards.

Blacklight 07-14-11 06:18 PM

Quote:

If the neighbors smoke is getting into your dwelling?
You live in a piece 'o crap building!
Which does not surprise me with today's accepted building standards.
This has been the case with EVERY apartment I've ever owned for decades. Unless the neighbor's apartment is sealed up completely airtight like a spacecraft, the smoke is going to find a vent, crevice, or some way of migrating into the surrounding apartments.

I feel sorry for people who have to live around here with kids. No telling what's happening to THEIR lungs.

Feuer Frei! 07-14-11 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1704957)
I find it sad that others just don't get it and there is a need to force them to wake the freak up!

But that's just it though, we responsible people, and i stress the word responsible, do get it.
Unfortunately the ignoramouses and morons who aren't responsible have to be made an example of.
This 'disciplining' via state, county, federal, national, wherever you live, law enforcement is unfortunately the result of that.
I'm just glad that in this case, i don't have to suffer, for once, because of someone elses irresponsible behaviour towards something that should be so dam simple and easy to do in the first place!

Armistead 07-14-11 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight (Post 1704966)
This has been the case with EVERY apartment I've ever owned for decades. Unless the neighbor's apartment is sealed up completely airtight like a spacecraft, the smoke is going to find a vent, crevice, or some way of migrating into the surrounding apartments.

I feel sorry for people who have to live around here with kids. No telling what's happening to THEIR lungs.

The problem with most apts is the top floor, the attic spaces are connected except for some 2x4's. They caught one man here that cut through and was visiting many of his neighbors, put cams over girls beds, taking goods, etc..Course the cam finally got him, someone filmed him coming through the return.

Buddahaid 07-14-11 07:16 PM

I don't smoke and it bothers me just to smell it anywhere now. I own my detached home but have smoking neighbors and hate it when I can't open my windows to cool the house because of the odor that wafts in. No it's not really a health problem but a quality of life problem. Someone even throws the damned butts over the fence and I've never said a thing about it to cause any sort of retribution. I am now dreaming up ways of creating my own smelly revenge. Face it people it stinks the world up. Even getting in a car or elevator with a smoker stinks worse with all the aromatic ash tray perfume that follows them. It's a really stupid habit among many other stupid habits, but one cannot avoid it's reach by moving a few feet away even. :dead:

Madox58 07-14-11 07:23 PM

I know that I carry the smell of smoke on me.
I don't fret about that because of what I call 'GrandMa smell'.
Those Women that seem to use Gallons of oder washing that gags me worse then Pepper Spray!
Do we need a Law for that also?

Blacklight 07-14-11 07:37 PM

Grandma odor doesn't cause lung cancer, or at least it didn't the last time I heard. Maybe someone should do a study. :hmmm:

Madox58 07-14-11 07:46 PM

It does not have to cause Cancer.
It can effect and launch other lung problems.
My Step-Son suffers from breathing disorders.
Why should GrandMa be allowed to cause him suffering?

Buddahaid 07-14-11 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1705037)
I know that I carry the smell of smoke on me.
I don't fret about that because of what I call 'GrandMa smell'.
Those Women that seem to use Gallons of oder washing that gags me worse then Pepper Spray!
Do we need a Law for that also?

Don't get me started on perfumes. Whoops too late! I reach my limit when I can actually taste the perfume in the air. Literally taste it like a snake smells! I'd rather smell your natural BO for Christ's sake. Perfumes need to be subtle to be attractive not bowl you over like a runaway lorrie. Bothersome and it can aggrivate my seasonal allergies which is my real issue on that subject.

Feuer Frei! 07-14-11 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 1705097)
I'd rather smell your natural BO for Christ's sake.

You've obviously never stood near a person that smells like 20 army guys who have just been out bush for a 2 week live fx and then put into a confined, airtight abode type of smell.
Let me tell you, i've encountered it at work a few times and i have physically had to step back about 3 to 4 paces, yep 3 to 4, to stop myself from dry-reaching.
And i have a pretty tolerable nose.

Obelix 07-14-11 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by danlisa (Post 1704622)
Really?

Where's the law banning smoking while pregnant, drinking while pregnant, eating excessively fatty foods...

+1
Now that some people do not realize the danger - is to influence legislation. My grandfather smoked right at home, it was unpleasant for all non-smokers. I myself was a smoker and for a time followed his example, but I later revised his views.
I never smoke at home - go out on the balcony or on the street.
I never smoke in the car when there is a non-smoking passengers of all ages.
Generally in the U.S. is an understatement for this approach, some laws apply only in certain states.
We in Russia also attended to the health and come to this globally - in the near future is expected to rise in price of a pack of cigarettes more than 10 times.
I've been thinking about how to quit smoking. Apparently, this law will force me to approach this more seriously and put all my will to fight with my smoking.

Blacklight 07-14-11 09:55 PM

Quote:

You've obviously never stood near a person that smells like 20 army guys who have just been out bush for a 2 week live fx and then put into a confined, airtight abode type of smell.
Let me tell you, i've encountered it at work a few times and i have physically had to step back about 3 to 4 paces, yep 3 to 4, to stop myself from dry-reaching.
And i have a pretty tolerable nose.
It must really suck to be a part of a deployed tank crew out in the field. I can't imagine what it must smell like in one of those vehicles after it's been lived in by them for a while.

Madox58 07-14-11 10:07 PM

In everyday situations?
You'll notice the smell.
In Combat situations?
A fresh smell will grab your attention in a heart beat!
Where's that Lilac smell comeing from?
Oh! There he is!! BAMM!
You hardly notice body smell in the field just like pig crap don't bother pig farmers.

Obelix 07-14-11 11:14 PM

If I smoke in any indoor or in a few minutes back there - I feel as sharp and not very pleasant smell. If I smoked a cigarette on the balcony with the door open, I feel like odor permeates from the balcony of the apartment. But the company is smoking a cigarette himself - all at once dull. So always have to remember the others.

Stealhead 07-15-11 12:34 AM

I agree with not allowing it when kids are in the car.An old Master Sargent in my old unit used to smoke in his house and car all the time around his son he was not a bad guy or bad parent he just did not think about it I suppose his son ended up developing asthma when he was 10 from being around all the smoke and he felt really horrible about it.

Snestorm 07-15-11 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1704514)
I don't smoke in the car, when my children are with me.
Or anywhere around them.
This law i support, i think it's sad that a government has to introduce laws and teach parents how to be responsible parents.
Sad really.

I think it's time The People taught The Politicians how to be Responsible Representatives.

Snestorm 07-15-11 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1704568)

Protecting the people who are unable to protect themselves is imo more important than the parent's right to smoke, so I go with this law, though having stomach aches about overprotective nanny laws.

It doesn't take a village to raise a child.
It takes one mother, and one father.


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