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frau kaleun 07-09-11 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by moose67 (Post 1701035)
back again...

.........after succesfully completing a patrol is there any kind of penalty or forfeit for using the return to base option instead of manually sailing back to base and then using the dock option ?

cheers :)

Not really. There was supposed to be a renown reward for returning all the way to base, in fact it's still listed there in the basic.cfg file, but it doesn't work and never has. So you can hit Esc and teleport back to base any time you like without taking a hit or losing something that you might have gotten otherwise.

Be aware though that if you ever ramp up the Realism to 100%, you will lose that "teleport" option and will not have the option to dock until you have sailed all the way back to base... or within a reasonable distance of it, I think 20-30 km or something like that.

Eventually you may find that sailing all the way back to base each time contributes to immersion and realism, or that you really just enjoy the trip. Some of us do it even though we don't have to, and don't get any special reward for it. When you've been out in the open ocean for several weeks straight, there's a certain euphoria that comes from hearing that first seagull's "caw" or spotting the lighthouse at the harbor entrance and realizing home isn't that far away.

Snestorm 07-09-11 10:32 PM

I've never seen a "Return To Base" option.
I've never done a "Single Mission".

Are you sure you're in career mode?

If so, don't hover with the mouse.
Left click on something.

Example:
Left Click on Awards.
Left Click a specific Medal.
Those eligle, if any, will be highlighted.
Left click on a highlighted figure.
He will now be shown in the lower center box.
Drag the medal to him, and release.
SH3 will ask "Are you sure?".
Left Click "Yes".

Helpful?

FIREWALL 07-09-11 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moose67 (Post 1701035)
back again...

.........after succesfully completing a patrol is there any kind of penalty or forfeit for using the return to base option instead of manually sailing back to base and then using the dock option ?

cheers :)

Not that I know of moose. And hi and welcome aboard. :salute:

f4wildweasel 07-10-11 03:30 AM

There are three awards (u-boat badge, U-boat front clasp, and German Cross in Gold) which will only be awarded after going all the way back to your port (You could sink the entire royal navy, but if you teleport back, don't expect these awards). The other medals (iron cross, knights cross etc.) do not have this requirement. I remember looking at my medals book in frustration, wondering why everyone on my boat had the front clasp and the badge, while I, with a knights cross at my throat, still lacked these elementary badges.
Of course, sailing back to port isn't the ONLY requirement for these, you still have to send down some allied tonnage.

moose67 07-10-11 10:51 AM

thanks everyone for the input :up:

it's a little confusing sometimes with no game manual, especially a game this big. Google normally gets me out of trouble, but sometimes i just can't find a specific answer to my need.

what got me confused was hovering over the promotions and medals tabs and seeing the "You must complete a patrol" msg after i had just returned from one. It made me think that by using the return to base option my patrols were not being registered but really it was just highlighting the fact for information :oops:

@ weasel

thanks for that... to add some weight to what you say ... on my fourth patrol i sailed home and used the dock option and was presented with a front clasp on my return.

i guess i shall have to sail home manually from now on.. :D

setting off on my fifth patrol now...back to Scarpaflow again.. i got mauled last time i was there and they send me back again :cry:


thx again everyone

moose67 07-10-11 06:50 PM

hey all

just a quickie....

i wanted to understand how the hydrophones worked and downloaded raduz's tutorial....( thx raduz)

after i unpacked it i was presented with the massive wall of test explaining how to use it all.

so now i'm thinking there is way to do the sonar man job manually and i haven't realised yet.

is this correct and if so what key do i need to make it happen please?

cheers all

Snestorm 07-10-11 10:23 PM

H for Hydrophone.

moose67 07-11-11 03:41 PM

hi

thanks a lot

i did try that but for some reason it didn't work last night...

...most probable cause was the beer and severe lack of sleep due to this game .....did find it eventually around 4 am time ....:haha:


thx again

FIREWALL 07-11-11 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f4wildweasel (Post 1701161)
There are three awards (u-boat badge, U-boat front clasp, and German Cross in Gold) which will only be awarded after going all the way back to your port (You could sink the entire royal navy, but if you teleport back, don't expect these awards). The other medals (iron cross, knights cross etc.) do not have this requirement. I remember looking at my medals book in frustration, wondering why everyone on my boat had the front clasp and the badge, while I, with a knights cross at my throat, still lacked these elementary badges.
Of course, sailing back to port isn't the ONLY requirement for these, you still have to send down some allied tonnage.

WRONG !!! I teleport back most of the time"99%" when all torps are spent and radio in. I get a return to base message and tele back.

I have all the medals. Dude be sure what your posting is accurate.

f4wildweasel 07-11-11 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1702334)
WRONG !!! I teleport back most of the time"99%" when all torps are spent and radio in. I get a return to base message and tele back.

I have all the medals. Dude be sure what your posting is accurate.

Funny. I remember having a career starting in '39, and by mid '43 I was missing all three of those. (had knights cross all the way up, but no badge or clasp). I looked around online and came across the theory that not teleporting would award you those. Sure enough, when I did the long haul back to base, I had a badge awaiting me, then a clasp for my next patrol, then the German cross. Perhaps a change in GWX?

moose67 07-11-11 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by f4wildweasel (Post 1702356)
Funny. I remember having a career starting in '39, and by mid '43 I was missing all three of those. (had knights cross all the way up, but no badge or clasp). I looked around online and came across the theory that not teleporting would award you those. Sure enough, when I did the long haul back to base, I had a badge awaiting me, then a clasp for my next patrol, then the German cross. Perhaps a change in GWX?

it is misleading because i had the same experiances as you trying to understand how everything works in the begining...

i used return to base option on my first 3 patrols.....at the awards screen i received no medals and when i hovered over the tabs it shows a box msg saying "you must complete a patrol"

on my fourth patrol i sailed all the way back to base and used the dock option, this time on the award screen i had 2 medals..

so that made me think that i had to sail home manually and use dock to get the awards aswell..

easy enough mistake to make :)

FIREWALL 07-11-11 06:11 PM

First I apologize for comeing on harsh.

I have been playing SH3 since release and up to and includeing today a minimum of 4 hrs per day.

Use GWX and for a time was a beta tester.

Last night just finished career spanning a career from begining 39 to end of war 45. I scuttled and surrendered.

Played thru out at 100% realism minus external cam for screenshots.

I proud to say I know this game inside out. :D

Thru the whole war a realistic 120,000 tns.

And I have all medals. :yep: And as stated tele'd back to port when out of torps.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Now I am going to install the Encore ver of SH3 pre patched to 1.4 and " NO FREAKIN STARFORCE " and you don't need disc in dvd tray to play. :woot:

With GWX and h.sie's Fantastic realism mod SH3 will now go to a whole new level for the players that want to be a Kptlt. :D

Good Sailing and SINK EM ALL :arrgh!:

f4wildweasel 07-11-11 07:08 PM

I found the forum post that I looked up oh so many years ago when I was having trouble getting those medals: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/3531032333

idk... maybe they changed it in a patch or a mod and now you can get it even when returning? Maybe it's just a bug that only affects some people?
All I remember was looking at my Knights cross with gold oak leaves swords diamonds, but still no u-boat badge and thinking "this doesn't seem right.."

Anyways, just wanted to get some proof showing that I wasn't just pulling that theory out of thin air.

OR... now that I think about it.. you mentioned you do full realism save external camera. Maybe once you pass a certain realism level the "return to base" requirement for those badges goes away... Idk just a hypothesis.

frau kaleun 07-11-11 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by f4wildweasel (Post 1702466)
OR... now that I think about it.. you mentioned you do full realism save external camera. Maybe once you pass a certain realism level the "return to base" requirement for those badges goes away... Idk just a hypothesis.

I was gonna say, I've tweaked things to where I'm always playing at 99% realism, and I've never had any trouble getting the U-boat badge and whatnot in addition to the IC series of medals. Even if I'm not racking up tonnage that gets me started on the Iron Cross track.

In fact I've been tweaking the basic.cfg to make it harder to get the badge, because I was always getting it after the first combat patrol and I prefer to award it to myself and the rest of the crew by using Commander and/or tinkering with my career files at a more historically appropriate time.

If I'm not mistaken the IC medals are awarded based on how high your cumulative "score" is when you return to base after a patrol, whereas getting the badge requires that your renown has increased by a certain amount during a single patrol. I believe that is definitely the case for the rest of the crew. There does seem to be a different way of keeping score when it comes to those awards as opposed to the different levels of the IC.

moose67 07-11-11 08:19 PM

back again :)

diverting somewhat from where this thread is right now....

..... i have a query with my propellers

i was trying to sail full steam and the boat didnt seem to be as fast as it should. i looked in external cam and noticed only my port side propeller is spinning, i went to take a look inside the helm and both engine telegraphs are showing full speed ??

awaiting instructions.... :hmmm:

thx

Fish In The Water 07-11-11 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moose67 (Post 1702500)
i was trying to sail full steam and the boat didnt seem to be as fast as it should. i looked in external cam and noticed only my port side propeller is spinning...

Press F7 and click on the diesel engine room to check for damage. It sounds as though one of your props may be on the injured list. :damn:

frau kaleun 07-11-11 08:25 PM

Had you been submerged prior to this?

When you are submerged, you run on batteries which have to be recharged after you surface. As was done in real life, when you surface one of your diesels is uncoupled from your props and altho it's running at whatever setting you ordered all the energy it generates is being used to recharge your batteries and not to turn a prop. Thus you will not get the full speed possible from that setting until your batteries have been recharged.

You can order the chief to put you back on standard propulsion if you absolutely need to make the max speed, but your batteries won't get recharged in that case. This would be bad if you find yourself in a situation where you need to dive and stay down for an extended period of time.

FIREWALL 07-11-11 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun (Post 1702502)
Had you been submerged prior to this?

When you are submerged, you run on batteries which have to be recharged after you surface. As was done in real life, when you surface one of your diesels is uncoupled from your props and altho it's running at whatever setting you ordered all the energy it generates is being used to recharge your batteries and not to turn a prop. Thus you will not get the full speed possible from that setting until your batteries have been recharged.

You can order the chief to put you back on standard propulsion if you absolutely need to make the max speed, but your batteries won't get recharged in that case. This would be bad if you find yourself in a situation where you need to dive and stay down for an extended period of time.


My dollar is bet here. :yep:...:DL

moose67 07-11-11 09:00 PM

should have bet more dollar.... Frau K is correct..

it all adds up now thankyou :up:

this just gets better and better....

are there any detrements (apart from it being pointless) to being in silent running mode, especially when on the surface using diesel motors.

I am kind of wondering why if a sub can run silent why they don't run in this mode all the time. :hmmm:

thx all

frau kaleun 07-11-11 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1702513)
My dollar is bet here. :yep:...:DL

Well when I reread it after posting I saw he said that he looked and only one prop was turning.

I wasn't sure if that's how it worked when recharging, if you had one diesel turning only one prop, or one diesel powering something that should be turning both props only making less speed due to the decrease in power. I've never actually looked (or looked it up), I just always assumed that each diesel only turned the one prop on the same side of the boat cuz that's what made sense to me.


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