A point I had not considered. Animals do make bonds, but only humans make contracts.

I think ducks have a civil union. :DL

Don't remember where I read this study, but there is a correlation between testicle size related to body size of primates and level of monogamous relationships. The higher the propensity for monogamous relationships, the smaller the testicles. If I am recalling correctly, gorillas were on the small end, and chimpanzees were on the large end of the scale. Humans fell a lot closer to the chimp end, showing that monogamous relationships are basically an artificial construct for the species.

Edit:
Found a reference to that study here:
http://scienceblogs.com/primatediari...les_or_who.php

Just dont agree with them getting married, I once went to a gay wedding a young lass from work got married and she was the groom and the other was of course the bride and as I have said it didn't seem natural, and I have witnessed it with my own eyes

Where do they hide the papers?

While we're on the subject of birds, do Penguins...? Oh, never mind.
:rotfl2:

I've long been of the opinion that marriage came about as a means to tie a couple together to guarantee the presence of the father so the children would be safe. That would imply that I believe that only a man and a woman should marry, but it would also imply that I believed that divorce should be illegal, at least where underage children are involved. But as I've said, what I believe shouldn't govern what other people do, especially where their beliefs are the only ones that count.

That's a perfectly valid opinion, and one I feel the same about. However, as I've said, just because you or I don't like it doesn't mean it should be illegal. A lot of people don't like rock and roll, but I'd very much hate to see it outlawed.

:hmmm: interesting study. However us humans still have this inner voice called emotion. I guess that's what ties most of us to a single partner, I woud not exclude that people are able to love more than one person, but love is also an egoistic feeling. I am not talking about possession, but about a feeling of "I don't want to share my partner with others (as I am better than them :O:)"

That line of reasoning would also create a problem for couples that are unable or unwilling to have children. Would that mean my parents are no longer married, as all their children have left home and they aren't having any more?

I believe that raising children had a lot to do with the origin of marriage. It also makes inheritance a lot easier to deal with when you can point and say "he's the father of this child".

Wow looks like gays are lot of fun.

Let then get married they will realise that its mistake very soon.
That it unless dude to dude thing works better-they might have beer evening while playing sub sims and having manly conversations....:haha:
No matter what the pros and cons are they should have the right.
Adopting children and effect on them remains to be seen yet.

:haha: *nerd attack*
from the PenguinFAQ @ http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/PenguinFAQ.html:
:know: doesn't also sound to bad, a new partner every mating season... -though I am an Adelie penguin since 11 years ;)

I agree. I prefer an honest opinion over some fake pseudo-tolerance out of peer pressure. I have a friend who is homophobic - he just doesn't like the sight/imagination. When we make a party at our home, he knows that guests are kings in our house and anybody there should be treated with respect. So when he is there, and two gals/girls are kissing he just looks the other way and refrains from pointless comments. This way everybody's happy - and as we are no teenagers anymore, most couples don't have to stick their tongue into each other's mouth all the time anyway ;)

(Kent Brockman in the Simpsons) :D

Communist red....

The one man one woman marriage has a religious base, not a constitutional one. The bigger issue is marriage was made a religious/government mix containing laws and themes from both institutions that often are in conflict. This same thinking resulted in slavery and women having no rights until secular courts took the religion out of a persons free right to happiness causing no harm to others.

It's not for me, the thought of two men getting it on makes me sick, but at the same time two women could turn me on, so it's really perspective, not that I ever watch that kind of stuff....much anymore.

Course these are limited state rights, so until it's a federal law nationwide, still not equal rights.
People act like we're gonna see a big difference. I have a gay couple in my hood that have lived here for 20 years, if they got married I would see no difference and would never know unless told.

What concerns me is the gay agenda, often pushing their themes into areas such as schools, etc. I understand the reasoning, the more that agree, the more that vote...Give them all their rights as you and I have and we should see the gay agenda die out as they will have no need for one.

Polygamy will soon be the next battle.

:rotfl2: Good one

But the gay marrying should be pink, ice caps melting should be blue and russia invades should be red

Yes the people have cried out and the government answered, to get a new voter base, next the insurance companies won't want to cover these same sex couples, like they do for mixed couples and their children, and again the people will cry out.

One more statement.
While I support them having the same rights as us, when they'll start demanding priviliges I'll stick those priviliges in their asses in a way they won't enjoy them

A little lewd....:nope:

Now who is the sicko?:shucks:

So Bossmark your justification over how sick it is and how just ain't right it is amounts to no reason you can express.
Its just your own little feelings that you cannot seem to explain rationaly.
It doesn't make a great case for you does it?

Yet the same religious base has plenty that shoots that one man one woman base to pieces, when explored further the "religious" base concerns issues mainly about rights property inheritence and general business practices.
At the end of the day marriage is in effect just a business contract between individuals.

Everyone is allowed to express how they feel... as long as they don't try to force that opinion on other, as some are doing here, then it's not against the law... It's a double edged sword gentlemen.