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Originally Posted by thegreattriscuit (Post 1657101)

So, not meaning to hijack here, but I'm still learning the art of the convoy attack myself... and have just completed one pass, and would like some feedback...

No offense, but I would take a long, prayerful look at the GWX manual's section on convoy attacks (even if you are not using GWX), and then I would dial my clock back to 1939-1940 and practice, practice, practice.

BTW, running TC does not make you easier to detect, but it makes reacting to detection much harder. Do the math... do you want 2 minutes to react to an escort turning to you, or do you want 15 seconds? If you want 15 seconds, by all means stay with 8X.

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Originally Posted by thegreattriscuit (Post 1657101)

I was a shade deeper the parascope depth (12 or 15 m, I believe) with my scopes at around 6 or 7m (to avoid the ~5m draft of the escorts) in the middle of the night and perfect glassy waters. How did I get detected? Is it just assumed that if they're that close, one of my sailors is going to fart too loud and they'll pick it up in their hydrophones or something?

I've had that happen in vanilla. Interestingly enough, not in GWX, yet.

Remember that the hemispherical detection area to the front of the destroyer, when you select the escort on your map screen, extends downward as well. If you are that close to the escort, do not be surprised if you are detected. Depth is Life.

IRL, an escort's sonarman could detect their own screw noise reflected off underwater structures at very close range. If that underwater structure (your boat) is in open water, the sonarman might just wonder what the heck is under their ship all of a sudden.

I'm not saying this is modelled in SH3, I don't know, it is just how I rationalize such situations in game.

heck, osmium, why not? I'll buy "rotor echo" over "crew farts", any day.

guess that means I should get out the way of that Black Swan Class that pointed right at me 900m from my bow...

And I'm sure you're right about the manual... I *HAVE* read through it, but it was many moons ago... I'll have to look through it again someday soon.

And I have my own frustrations with the early war, but those are deserving of their own thread, which I'll create when I get home from work, probably... in the mean time, thanks for the input guys.

There could very well be a minimum distance while underwater that is going to make you detected no matter what precautions you make. But it might also have been your periscope sticking out of the surface for just a small moment. Difficult to say exactly what happend. All you can do is react appropriately and get away.

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted (Post 1657248)

"Lurking" under a large merchant is also a good idea, in theory, but how are you planning on keeping station under a zig-zagging merchant?

It's only intended to be a temporary tactic. If the escorts are already 'on top of you' it provides a respite while you plan your next move. Try tracking their search pattern and then break when they're at the furthest point in the arc.

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Originally Posted by sharkbit (Post 1656883)

Even worse is when you are looking thru your scope while you're in the midst of the convoy submerged and a ship fills the field of view and you realize that you ARE NOT zoomed in with your scope. :o
Then there is no thinking you may get run over-you will get run over.

:)

You just hit on my biggest SH3 fear.