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Platapus 04-22-11 03:21 PM

Russell Peters :har:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5jlrxcpkI

Schroeder 04-22-11 03:25 PM

@Armistead
Job well done!:yeah:
Corporal punishment in schools and other institution has to be like a beacon for pervs to apply for those jobs.:nope:

Growler 04-22-11 03:38 PM

Rotten kids.

GoldenRivet 04-22-11 03:42 PM

I asked my mother once when i was about 18 years old i said "Mom... why is the world becoming such a terrible place?"

her answer was simple and poignant

"Son... the world has always been a terrible place, if not more so than it is today... the difference between now and when i was a kid is than now, every little shooting, stabbing, robbery and murder makes the news. and the news has countless outlets today - whereas compared to my growing up, we didnt even own a TV until i was about 15 years old. now days, every place you look the news of something terrible happening is right in our faces. if anything the world is not getting more terrible, its just getting a lot smaller."

Growler 04-22-11 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1648860)
I asked my mother once when i was about 18 years old i said "Mom... why is the world becoming such a terrible place?"

her answer was simple and poignant

"Son... the world has always been a terrible place, if not more so than it is today... the difference between now and when i was a kid is than now, every little shooting, stabbing, robbery and murder makes the news. and the news has countless outlets today - whereas compared to my growing up, we didnt even own a TV until i was about 15 years old. now days, every place you look the news of something terrible happening is right in our faces. if anything the world is not getting more terrible, its just getting a lot smaller."

Wisdom in these words.

Jimbuna 04-22-11 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1648805)
Well, I'm against spankings in school, I just don't trust them to do it. My daughter is 23 now with a previous wife. When she was in the 4th grade she wouldn't tell on a friend and took the blame and the male principle paddled her. She had on sort of a short dress in the style kids wore and she got home hours later and large red marks still showed. She said he made her bend over and he no doubt saw panty and spanked bare skin way too hard.

I went to the school, I was furious and probably threatening when I walked into the office. The principles office was towards the back with large glass windows. He wouldn't come out. I threw a typewriter through the glass, in fact it took a few times and I got through, took his paddle off the wall and knocked the **** out of him on his arse. He's lucky I didn't beat the crap out of him with it. Course other male teachers and coaches came in, but I was all words then, looked worse than it was, cops came, I was arrested.

It caused quite a stir, was in the evening news, all that crap. We filed charges against the principle. I was still charged with assault. Lawyer also sued the school system. The principle wasn't charged in court which was BS, but on his own or forced later resigned.

Not saying I was right, but she was bruised for weeks. He didn't have a witness which broke the rules, so I think he was a perv. I was very angry that the judge just gave him a stern lecture.

Not condoning what you did but I will admit I may well have acted in a similar fashion.

At the very least you probably saved other children suffering the same treatment in the future.

MaddogK 04-22-11 04:48 PM

:cool:
Too many violent video games maybe ?

Growler 04-22-11 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaddogK (Post 1648906)
:cool:
Too many violent video games maybe ?


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magic452 04-22-11 05:09 PM

My two kids were very much like Armistead's.
For my son a couple of firm but not hard swats on the back side were enough. Mission accomplished, maybe had to do this three or four times when he saw little.

My daughter was immune to swats but a little time in the bedroom and you would think it was a torture chamber.

A spanking is one thing, someone used the word "beating", that is something else, no one should ever beat a child. The trick is knowing where the line is.

The punishment MUST fit the crime and every situation is different.
The idea of punishing and child is to teach the child right from wrong behavior, not to extract revenge by the parent. What works for one child might not be best for another and what works this time might not be right next time. The idea is to teach the child that there are consequences for their actions.

When I was about 9 or 10 I shot out a big window with a BB gun by accident. Two months of extra chores to pay for the window.
I learned two lessons, First windows are expressive and two always make sure you have a safe back drop when you are shooting. :know: :know:

When I was in school in the 50's corporal punishment was allowed. I felt many a ruler across the knuckles in my time. The problem with this system is it is very open to the kind of abuse that Armistead referred to and I can't say I support it today.

Magic

Platapus 04-22-11 05:14 PM

I completely agree that kids should not be beaten like I was when I was a kid.

But the other extreme is equally wrong.

A kid should always know that the parent is CHOOSING not to hit the kid, but should never feel that the parent CAN'T hit the kid. There is a world of difference

I think that because of the over reaction of some child "protection" services that some kids are being brought up thinking that the parent can never even spank them. :nope:

Castout 04-22-11 05:47 PM

Those kids are suffering from psychopathic tendencies. No doubt about it. They just don't have empathy and compassion in their brain to think like other normal people. What's in their head is themselves and nothing more. More and more people today are psychopathic than ever before. Largely it's the gene to be blamed. But some may have gotten the traits from environment(home or school or past traumatic experience or abuse). It's about living without moral compass and replacing it with merely desires. It's actually very easy to be like them but normal people just wouldn't want to give up their moral standard or goodness, but if you live without moral guidelines and don't believe in the goodness of goodness there's no encouragement to be a good person at all hence becoming a person without moral character becoming more likely (or susceptible for them). Because for someone to descend to such condition as moral bankruptcy he needs to have his mind cleared out of any moral compass by way of brainwashing, mostly by the life principle that he or she chose to embrace or through his environment.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1648805)
Well, I'm against spankings in school, I just don't trust them to do it. My daughter is 23 now with a previous wife. When she was in the 4th grade she wouldn't tell on a friend and took the blame and the male principle paddled her. She had on sort of a short dress in the style kids wore and she got home hours later and large red marks still showed. She said he made her bend over and he no doubt saw panty and spanked bare skin way too hard.

I went to the school, I was furious and probably threatening when I walked into the office. The principles office was towards the back with large glass windows. He wouldn't come out. I threw a typewriter through the glass, in fact it took a few times and I got through, took his paddle off the wall and knocked the **** out of him on his arse. He's lucky I didn't beat the crap out of him with it. Course other male teachers and coaches came in, but I was all words then, looked worse than it was, cops came, I was arrested.

It caused quite a stir, was in the evening news, all that crap. We filed charges against the principle. I was still charged with assault. Lawyer also sued the school system. The principle wasn't charged in court which was BS, but on his own or forced later resigned.

Not saying I was right, but she was bruised for weeks. He didn't have a witness which broke the rules, so I think he was a perv. I was very angry that the judge just gave him a stern lecture.

I'm all for you for what you just described!:up:

the_tyrant 04-22-11 05:49 PM

these people give us young people a bad name

Rilder 04-22-11 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaddogK (Post 1648906)
:cool:
Too many violent video games maybe ?

Nah if it wasn't for violent games and music I would of killed a couple hundred people by now. :O:

Castout 04-22-11 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilder (Post 1648964)
Nah if it wasn't for violent games and music I would of killed a couple hundred people by now. :O:

:haha: Though it may have been a joke there's some truth in that I admit.

Tchocky 04-22-11 06:07 PM

Kids these days have always been trouble.

Adults know better and throw out more horror.

Anthony W. 04-22-11 06:28 PM

I can tell you what happened - and I'm a teenager myself - only - I'm malcontented with my own generation.

It started with the US population being sick of 50 years going from war to war

Then - the egotistical red hat-esque groups of mothers began bragging about how smart their kids were and how successful they just knew they were going to be. The competition begins. Parents with less successful kids start making excuses for their kids behaving out of line - and eventually start believing themselves. They lessen punishments - no more woodshed.

People started telling their kids that they could do anything they wanted and be anything they wanted to be, and that they could do anything if they just TRIED - they weren't taught boundaries.

Boom - Vietnam war. Close family, friends, and relatives get drafted - and many don't return. Nobody likes that. The "you can do anything" kids begin to get skeptical about the need for war - and - not having been alive in the years of Stalin and Lenin, and the Bolsheviks - question how bad communism could be - and they got their answers from the only "non establishment" sources readily available - people like Saul Olinski and the now forgotten "progressives" of the 20s and 30s - who preach of a world where everyone is equal in every way, and nobody seems to work for anything.

These kids - with the war now over - begin having kids of their own - and pass on the all credit no work attitude.

Thats how I see it.

Tribesman 04-23-11 12:52 AM

@onelife
Quote:

It's actually illegal for a parent to hit a child here in the UK, but if I ever do decide to hit my child I won't let that law stop me.
Are you sure you know your countries laws?

@GR
Quote:

I asked my mother once when i was about 18 years old i said "Mom... why is the world becoming such a terrible place?"

her answer was simple and poignant

Your mother was spot on:up:

@magic
Quote:

The punishment MUST fit the crime and every situation is different.
The idea of punishing and child is to teach the child right from wrong behavior, not to extract revenge by the parent. What works for one child might not be best for another and what works this time might not be right next time. The idea is to teach the child that there are consequences for their actions.
It can be interesting working out new punishments to teach the children, charity shops, the fire and money seem to work best with mine.

Platapus 04-23-11 07:05 AM

And the obligatory,

"Kids!
I don't know what's wrong with these kids today!
Kids!
Who can understand anything they say?
Kids!
They a disobedient, disrespectful oafs!
Noisy, crazy, dirty, lazy, loafers!
While we're on the subject:
Kids!
You can talk and talk till your face is blue!
Kids!
But they still just do what they want to do!
Why can't they be like we were,
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids today?
Kids!
I've tried to raise him the best I could
Kids! Kids!
Laughing, singing, dancing, grinning, morons!
And while we're on the subject!
Kids! They are just impossible to control!
Kids! With their awful clothes and their rock an' roll!
Why can't they dance like we did
What's wrong with Sammy Kaye?
What's the matter with kids today!"

But would it really kill them to get a hair cut one of these days?

:D

Feuer Frei! 04-23-11 07:18 AM

What happened to kids these days?
Easy:
Parents!

Schroeder 04-23-11 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1649234)
What happened to kids these days?
Easy:
Parents!

I think that might be wrong. Often it's the lack of parents because both have jobs and are never at home. :hmm2:


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