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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 1642447)

Our nuclear arsenal seems like more of a deterrent to me than an Osprey, would really work great for us now(where is Truman when you need him). Save us the cost of getting rid of nukes later too.

So you are a proponent of nuking anybody who we are at war with.

:up:

You have fun with that.

So much for a serious discussion. :eyeroll:

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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II (Post 1642454)

but it reeks of being a propaganda piece.

God, what a piece of propaganda. And crappy propaganda - since good propaganda should be almost un-noticeable as such. The V-22 may or may not be getting better (though IMO the critics make sense), but this article clearly will not be the doubt-clearer.

Well said. All of it, not just the main points I chose to quote. Amongst military organizations, the Marines Corps has a decided mastery of propaganda, as evidenced by its reputation despite a history of catastrophic failures.

For instance, does anyone remember Belleau Wood? Significant infantry battle during WW1, immortalized as a victory for the Marine Corps? It was nothing of the sort. The attacking Marines were all but annihilated. They made a frontal attack without artillery support and the Germans tore them to shreds. Units from US and French armies then launched a supporting attack and claimed the area, but only because the Germans had all but exhausted their ammunition shooting at the Marines. Brave? Yes. Admirable? Sort of. Tactically desirable? Not in the least. And yet this disaster is somehow ingrained in the public consciousness as a victory for the Corps. The Corps still trumpets this "victory" today.

Thus, it doesn't really surprise me that the Marine Corps would fudge tests to get good results. Actually, the whole armed services do that all the time, the Marines are just better at it.

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 1642456)

So you are a proponent of nuking anybody who we are at war with.

:up:

You have fun with that.

So much for a serious discussion. :eyeroll:

What good has limited war EVER done us? War shouldn't be something we play at, we're either "in it to win it" or we should save the expense for more productive uses(a real reach here talking about gov't spending). :arrgh!:

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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 1643206)

So nuclear war is winning?

I found this from site Kazuaki posted here http://www.g2mil.com/Duma.htm.

I have not read OPEVAL II myself yet but if this is correct then I have to admit that I have had too rosy idea of V-22 Osprey.