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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1610862)

As a Patriot Guard Rider, I have met the Nut Cases face to face.
I have stood my ground to stop them from approaching to close.
When they so much as touch me?
I file charges of assault!
They may not get convicted but it causes that person a lot of hassle in many ways!

Allow me to join the chorus or praise for you. You do a great service to the fallen, and we thank you for it.

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1611480)

Yeah. These guys are terrible human beings, but our rights extend to terrible human beings as well.

Yep they do, it sucks in some regard, I despise them but if their rights can be trampled on bc most people dislike the message, anyone's can, including yours or mine.

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1611481)

Allow me to join the chorus or praise for you. You do a great service to the fallen, and we thank you for it.

I was in Carlsbad, CA, I think it was, a few weeks ago, walking into a Denny's with my wife, when I observed a Rider sitting on his machine in the parking lot, just getting ready to leave. I was, oh, maybe sixty, seventy feet away, but I stopped and sketched a quick salute his way before walking in. I was reminded of how grateful I am for these guys when he threw a quick wave back, acknowledging my thanks.

So, yeah. The chorus is loud, and it ought to be. For every one who proffers hate like WBC, there will be one thousand or more of us standing in opposition.
:salute:

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1610836)

Errr what?
I read the link OP posted, ok, but at what distance are they allowed at the funeral to protest?
Regardless of nutjobs or not, i think that there are let's say more appropriate places to bleat your beliefs than a funeral, am i right?
No respect for the dead comes to mind here.
Sorry but i think that in this case certainly that it is in bad taste.
The mourners, would they hear the protesters? See them? Whilst they pay their respects to the deceased?
I know i for one would be outraged and disgusted if i was at a military funeral of a family member or close friend, letalone a funeral in general.
Sorry but that's b***crap!
Protest if you must, but do it with a bit of respect, and certainly not at a funeral :nope:
Doesn't matter what your beliefs are.
And as for the matter of 'freedom of speech' arguement?
Moot.

Well said.

If this occurred at a funeral I attended, there would be real trouble.

Oh, and by the way, I completely disagree with the decision. We all know Free speech has limits. This is beyond stupid.

The limits on Free Speech fall into two categories in US law: unprotected speech and time, place, and manner restrictions. Time, place, and manner restrictions were imposed by the state and were obeyed by the demonstrators, so those limits aren't at issue. Could the demonstration have been unprotected speech? No. The old "hate speech" argument doesn't work, because it doesn't have any real meaning beyond something that offends the listener. If that were the rule, there would be no 1st Amendment at all. There are very specific categories of unprotected speech and the court is not going to create any new ones. If the speech doesn't fit into one of those categories, it's protected. And political speech--as this was--is the category of speech that receives the highest protection.

These guys are the lowest form of life on the planet, but as far as the law goes, this wasn't even close.