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PhantomLord 11-24-10 06:29 AM

First:
If you already are in germany there´s another bunker you should visit:

Bunker "Valentin" - Bremen / Farge

A planned dockyard for the final assembly of type XXI sections. This is pure concreted megalomania...
Dont know if they do the tour in english too. And you´ve to hand out your passport for the time in there. This is still german army territory (material depot 2) :D They will leave within the next time.

Hope this bunker will survive. Funding of security and maintenance is not secured now...

Second:
Technikmuseum Sinsheim and Speyer - a huge and well preserved collection of (not only) WWII tanks, planes and much more.

Fint it Here - Speyer and Here - Sinsheim

momo55 11-24-10 08:05 AM

http://www.warmuseums.nl/gal/058gal.htm
(click " see map " to find other intresting locations in Belgium)

"Domein Raversijde" is located between Oostende and Middelkerke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9vVN...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKhrPG3jwnw&NR=1

And in Zeebrugge you can visit a russian foxtrot submarine :
http://seafront.be/foxtrot.asp

:03:

McBeck 11-24-10 09:04 AM

Lots of good stuff :D

McBeck 11-24-10 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1540340)
That's because there never were any pens at Wilhelmshaven. :D

DOH!

sharkbit 11-24-10 11:31 AM

Oradour sur Glane near Limoges, France.
Remains of a village where the inhabitants were massacred by units of the 2nd SS Panzer Division in June 1944.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour_sur_glane

As others have said, a visit to a concentration camp is worth it. They can be a sobering experience.

:)

PhantomLord 11-25-10 06:17 AM

Peenemünde!

The biggest factory and research facility for special weapons like the V1 and V2.
The museum inside the old coal power plant is huge. The exhibiton guides you through the ages from WWII, first space craft´s like the russian "Sputnik" till now. Outside are some aircrafts, helo´s, rockets, a missile speedboat "Tarantul" and a soviet SSG Juliett-class....

You really need a whole day there :D

Peenemünde military test site

Red Heat 11-25-10 06:48 AM

Hello

I thing personaly that trip its a outstanding idea...but there is a lot to see in your voyage. And another place witch have a Historical interest and miltary interest ist Gibraltar!

I have ben there a few years a go...and i love it, and i hope one day be able to return there but with more more time avaiable...

The military history of Gibraltar during World War II:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...g_World_War_II

The history of Gibraltar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gibraltar

And Gibraltar today:

http://www.gibnet.com/tourist/index.htm

http://www.gibraltar.gov.uk/main.php

Enjoy :up:

Red Heat 11-25-10 07:11 AM

There is another place witch i visit some years a go witch is located in the British channel islands, Jersey Island and its about the Hohlgangsanlage 8. its about a German Undergound Hospital build by the German forces when they captured the channel islands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohlgangsanlage_8

And some pictures:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca...lgangsanlage_8

Enjoy! :DL

Torvald Von Mansee 11-25-10 08:32 PM

Have you considered checking out WW1 sites?

Well, there is probably something to see from just about every era for where you're traveling,

saltysplash 11-28-10 10:47 AM

Theres also the Atlantic Wall museum in Oostende Belgium and i think again at Cap Gris Nez

DarkFish 11-28-10 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saltysplash (Post 1543074)
Theres also the Atlantic Wall museum in Oostende Belgium and i think again at Cap Gris Nez

Aye, the museum in Oostende is the one momo55 mentioned:
Quote:

Originally Posted by momo55 (Post 1540880)

It's one of few places where the Atlantikwall is still largely intact. See these dunes?
http://cultuur.oostende.be/file_uplo..._450_29030.jpg
They're largely concrete.
There are also coastal defences from WW1 left here.

The museum near Cap Gris Nez is the old Batterie Todt. I visited it when I was about 8 years old, so I can't remember a lot of it, but I do still know I liked it:DL
http://chrishowells.co.uk/wp-content....thumbnail.jpg

McBeck 11-28-10 11:05 AM

The Museum Peenemünde is a very good idea!

I could not see if one would be able to see the actual test site for the rocket development - only the powerplan seems to be there.

PhantomLord 11-29-10 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBeck (Post 1543084)
The Museum Peenemünde is a very good idea!

I could not see if one would be able to see the actual test site for the rocket development - only the powerplan seems to be there.

AFAIK you can have a guided tour to some old test sites and rocket ramps. They are mostly destroyed or in a ruinous condition. The ramps are all sprayed over the place. You can find some by just walking around (and check GoogleMaps before :D ).
A "secret" hint from me: take the tour by bicycle from Karlshagen to Peenemünde. Along the old railway track are some interesting reads (ramps for building material, coal, stuff). The places are well hidden :nope: There´s not much promotion for our history... i stumbled over some of these places by pure luck.

Link to the Peenemünde area: via GoogleMaps

You can see some of the old round test sites in the woods.
Good hunting out there :DL

Leandros 11-29-10 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBeck (Post 1540126)
We are driving down from Denmark, through germany to france.

Then you won't pass too far away from Eben Emael at the Belgian/Dutch/German border by the Albert Canal. The fortress is still there hidden on a tree-grown hill 40 meters above the Albert Canal. The entrance is from the West through the small village of Eben Emael. This fortress was the scene of one of the most spectacular operations of WW2 on May10th 1940.

Going south from there you can go through Bastogne (heard about it?) in southern Belgium (you could take a western detour to Waterloo). There is a large US star-shaped memorial there with a small museum close by and in the city of Bastogne itself there is also a museum. The main plaza is called McAuliffe after the "Nuts" general. In the center - a Sherman tank!

Having entered France you are not far from the northern part of the Maginot Line. From there, Paris (Disneyland, of course....:haha:...) and Normandy.

Furthermore, if you go from Copenhagen you might want to take the ferry from Rødbyhavn in Denmark to Puttgarten in Germany. Kiel, the main base of the Kriegsmarine, is just west of Puttgarten. I'd be surprised if you don't find something of interest there.




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PhantomLord 11-29-10 09:03 AM

Dont forget Bletchley Park Museum
I think it´s a must-have for every u-boat fan.

Imperial War Museum Duxford, UK

Kent, Battle of Britain museum, former RAF airbase Hawkinge (south england, near Folkestone)
Maybe a nice detour if you want to travel through the channel via train. Oh... wait... STAY OUT OF THE CHANNEL! :D


wow... this thread is an impressive tourist guide through europe. One will need a lot of time and money to visit all the places :hmmm:

Jimbuna 11-30-10 04:39 PM

I don't know if your planning on crossing the channel but seeing as how you have a whole raft of suggestions I'll recommend two (in case you are crossing the channel).

Bovington Tank Museum

http://www.tankmuseum.org/

Gosport Naval Museum (it is submarine related though)

http://www.submarine-museum.co.uk/


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