Why so eager to have yourself placed in a box on account of one color test?

Fair enough but the conclusion came frighteningly true and more detailed than horoscope.

Give it a try don't do it half heartedly though, give it a try and a fair chance. Really.


Well it's not about putting yourself in a box but knowing what box you've placed yourself currently at the moment. Knowledge is power and that's especially true about knowing our current situation.

To be honest we are very subjective about ourselves thus we may not be a good judge of ourselves. This color test help make that assessment for us. If you found it to be accurate that would mean you're being objective or know yourself quite well.
It also doesn't decide about our permanent color(psyche) but only describe about our current color. People change as many are aware. Our situation changes as well and we change to them too...

I recommend people to take the test and if not a problem to share it in this thread! If that's too personal and too true and if you're not comfortable sharing it then don't share it with us. It's a very short and ridiculously easy test.

No, I can vouch that in my case the colour test wasn't too far off and I played around with other choices which were quite off. It was certainly on to something, although looking at it carefully, it is possible to see how it really does rely a lot on very generalizeable, agreeable statements that appeal to emotions in broad strokes. Still, there's something to that.

Your self-rightousness shows in that with the greatest naturalness you think and claim people being nerved by your missionary testimony feel, in your words, "threatend", where the simple truth is that they are simply be annoyed by missionary tone and getting fed religious hear-say in return when arguing with reason and reference to science themselves on an issue that has little to do with magic and deities.

Your rightousness also shows in that at one point you admit you are not God and thus do not know it perfectly as he does, nevertheless at another point you admit that you feel compelled to give testionay of your belied - although an uncomfortable implication of what you said is that you cannot be certain of your belief. Why then be so eager to bring it amongst the people?

I dispise religious missionising, no matter whether it is directly or indirectly or is transported by implications of statements, always, no matter what ideology. Like oyu and many others do not like to be told at every opportunity how silly your b elief is and how reasonable an atheistic attitude is or how great xyz-ism is. You take it once, and mabye you take it twice, but then you would have enough of getting it delivered - and friendliness can be a weapon here. Psycho-sects lure their victims by friendliness, and ripping them off their self-responsibility by not leaviong them alone one momnent and not lettin g them do anything themselves, but doing it for them, so that the victim, when it protests, gets asked "We only mean it well, we treat you helpful and friendly, and this is how you give back to us?" It is the classical double-bind situation, meant to undermine defence, and when intentionally used it is the most underhanded a tactical tool of abusive communication. And when a person tells me/you, after you critised his belief, that he forgives you and nevertheless his god loves you still, a divine embrace you cannot escape and that you do not get asked about, then this again is a mixture of double-bind tactis, and arrogance.

Spirituality is about learning to know oneself, and about modesty. And it is best dealt with like you should deal with wild animals: do not try to touch them, do not try to make them approach you, do not lure them. Only stroke them with your hand when they come to you all by themselves and seek your nearness all by themselves. Anything else is - aggression. What you say you think god is or is not, and what you feel like when doing or not doijung soemthing, is not interesting for anyone. Actually what you decide to do and carry out, and what you decide not to do, defines what you are and what your motivation is worth. But even then, the deed still speaks louder than your words.

As to the word threatened that's how I perceive people's rude reaction. And I wasn't specifically talking about you Skybird but more like to so many fanatic, religious hating atheist out there.

Yes I do not know everything or even something close to enough but I do know something. Something which I treasure.

If it isn't interesting to you then don't bother to replying or even reading it in the first place. I don't know about you but Martin Luther King Junior was shot for his words! and JFK was killed for his ideals. The current Noble prize winner won because of what he wrote and jailed because of the same writing as well. Not saying that action doesn't define a person but . . . Anyway I'm not looking for argument nor to pun anyone. Don't take it personally. The postings weren't meant for you specifically Skybird. I'd be happier if subsim had a spoiler tag.

I am what you would probably call a religous zealot so be gentle with me :timeout:. I think what I is being promoted here in ones testimony is yoking the supernatural, divination and necromancy with Adonai. Something I don't believe appropriate.

Leviticus19:31 Not to practice sorcery of the ov, necromancy
Leviticus19:31 Not to practice sorcery of yidde'oni, familiar spirits.
Deuteronomy18:10 Not to practice soothsaying

Much of what is warned against can be traced to Babylonian cult practices. That includes looking to the stars for answers.

Sorry if I sound hypocritical I don't mean too. I like to a certain degree some of what Skybird said.

Interesting post.

I dreamed the other day that I bowled a PERFECT 300 game in bowling. Then I realized when I woke up that I left one pin standing up when I looked between my legs. damn.

Listen Turkey, spare us the fantasies, your mind was just in the gutter instead of the alley.

Time for me to split.

:D

:o . . . . . . okay but I don't practice occultism and err I don't think I'm a zealot either LOL.

It's okay if you liked what Skybird said to each his own. :salute:

I respect people who know where they stand or what they stand for more than people who are confused and afraid to choose or worse people who stand for themselves as in them being the whole point of any endeavor LOL.
Though I may not agree with Skybird but I can respect his stand and understand his reasons.
I don't mean to hurt anybody's feeling either.

Certainly I don't expect most people to believe it either. I mean that's the whole point of me telling. The acceptance is not my concern or in my control.
I certainly wish I find people who could understand me, I tried to seek such person in real life only to be disappointed . . . . . so I've stopped looking and just tell. . . .may not be wise but I certainly don't care LOL

Oh goodie, dream interpretation, followed by religious stuff...


Frankly I am highly dubious that most dreams have any real meaning or significance. I also find the concept of looking up dream 'symbols' in an encyclopedic type thing amusing, since it is highly likely that any 'true' symbolic meaning would vary from person to person and item to item.

Also gotta say the colors thing gave me a real laugh. Not only was the results it gave me generalizable as all get out, they were totally off base with my present situation (other then telling me I am under stress, well who the heck isn't). The horoscope analogy is quite appropriate as they are using the same form of generalizable delivery. Also extended horiscopes are pretty similar to the results it gave.


Castout you should be very wary of submitting your personal beliefs to the general public as it opens them to criticism, and religion never fares very well in such circumstances. Honestly, there are several logical inconsistencies in your opening sermon, which if applied to the fullest logical extent would make your deity out to be a vicious bastard or worse. But all religions tend to be full of these logical flaws, being human creations after all.

Also what I think all those religious hating zealots object to, is all the religious zelots telling everyone else around them and at every freaking opportunity (not to mention trying to enact laws and other crap), what to believe, do, say, feel, and think. I know I get pissed off real fast when people do it to me. My belief... keep it to yourself.



Anyhow since you requested, here is the colorquiz 'result' I got... With smart arse comments included (in fuchsia to annoy) :D


Color Test - Results


Your Existing Situation

Feeling stressed out due to his current situation and the demands which are placed on him. Working to release himself from all things that hold him back or tie him down.
Haha who the heck does this not apply to.. seriously.

Your Stress Sources

"Looking to stand out in the crowd and wanting to keep his rank and status. His current situation is irritating him because he can't seem to find anybody out there who values the same high standards he does. He is feeling isolated and wants to give in to his carnal urges, but can't bring himself to appear weak in the eyes of others. Wants others to see his unique qualities and character but can't stand to come off as needy, so instead he has an ""I don't care"" attitude and pushing people away. He turns his back on those who criticizes his behavior, but beneath his indifference is a person who is in desperate need of approval."
I really wish this thing would write in proper english, reading this paragraph gave me a serious headache. Again this could apply to almost anyone, but not me actually, it got it backwards for me for most of it.

Your Restrained Characteristics

Emotionally distant even from those closest to him.
"Feels he is not receiving his fair share and is unable to rely on anyone for support or sympathy. He keeps his emotions bottled up, leaving him quick to take offense to small things. He tries to make the best of his situation."
"Feels he is not receiving his fair share and is unable to rely on anyone for support or sympathy. He keeps his emotions bottled up, leaving him quick to take offense to small things. He tries to make the best of his situation."
Applies tough standards to his potential partner and demands an unrealistic perfection in his sex life.
Again totally wrong. Don't have a sex life currently or potential partners, no time. I am also not emotionally distant by any means. Also rather generic. I also wonder if it is picking this emo crap as i picked black first both times.

Your Desired Objective

"Feels he is in a hopeless situation, which causes him to feel depressed. He resists things which he finds difficult or not to his liking and shields himself from the things which irritate him."
Nope totally wrong again, actually my situation is pretty good all in all, well other than the sex life.

Your Actual Problem

"Struggles with his need for respect and admiration from others; feels he needs to make a name for himself and stand out from the crowd. He acts out by insisting he be the center of attention, and refuses to step back, stand down, or take on a minor, insignificant role."
This one makes me laugh, I have lots of respect and admiration from others. I've also always kind of stood out from the crowd just by my nature of being different. But I am not a peon so no I don't take utterly insignificant roles, nor would I want to.

Your Actual Problem #2

"Is disappointed and let down, feels there is no point in making new goals as they will leave him feeling the same way. Is unable to admit to his short comings, which leads him to act out in an aggressive and resentful way."
Here we go again with the emo nonsense. Again totally backwards.



So all in all, total failure. The thing seems to think I am some goth emo reject (couldn't possibly be more off base if it tried), all cause my first picks were black, then gray (then fuchsia).

I had a dream that my fiance and I broke up, and I ended up dating someone who looked like her, but felt sad that it wasn't her. Ended up calling her on the phone but she wouldn't get back in relationship with me. Felt utterly hearbroken. And then I either woke up(and promptly fell back asleep) or the dream shifted. The next dream was something about driving(can't remember details). Had to to three more dreams that I can't remember afterwords. The last had something to do with X3. :haha:

In defense of the color test - given that this is a generalized version. I took the Luscher Color Test as part of a college class several years back.

The person administering the test knew nothing about me and informed me based on color selection that...

1. I had recently ended a long term commitment with a girlfriend or fiance

2. I was frustrated by a family situation that i felt i had no control of, and color placement suggested that it had more to do with a divorce or a death in the family over some petty problem

3. I was excited about a new endeavor that had begun for me as recently as a week ago.

there were about a dozen points to it all the way down to my preference toward artistic things right up to the type of woman i was most attracted to it was all very very specific.

1. I had just ended it with a girlfriend of 3 years

2. my parents were in the middle of a bitter divorce

3. I had switched majors and enrolled in an aviation program just a week or two before taking the color test.

while this hocus pocus internet version is HIGHLY generalized - the actual psychological examination is frighteningly accurate.

EDIT:

personally, i think the mind is an extremely potent and powerful thing that we don't even begin to understand even in this age.

dreams are more than just subconscious entertainment - though sometimes thats all they are. - but i maintain that a lot of the time, dreams contain the keys to our loves, lusts, desires and goals and say more about who we are than we might think.

Umm I'd say you feel a bit insecure about your relationship :D and that you love her MUCH. Well maybe this MUCH(I swear subsim only allows that tall)


:D Kids in you

Umm have you been having a pressing matter that you think is quite urgent that you need to solve quickly? Anyway it looked like you have the capability to deal with the problem.

I usually lose in my dream(I attribute that to low self esteem) except when I get pissed then somehow I'm able to think even in dream and take control LOL.

Fluffy coulds, Rainbows and Unicorns.

oopeeen youur Eyyyeeesss!

The so-called Lüscher-Farbtest is not unknown in psychology, though rarely used in institutions and settings needing to take care for methodics, because as fas as I know there is little statistical work done to verify it's validity. However, it gets used by some therapists not working in har-core clinical contexts, but more ion the advisory, councelling field, and in the job assessment setting. I used it myself several times, and for reasons of curiosity many of us students back then did: we experimented, like students do. :D Surprisingly I found it to have a very high hit quota.

Lüscher has chnaged the test several times in an attempt to reduce it to the very basic needs, he reduced the number of colour cards and the number of steps that were needed to do. So, several versions of the Lüscher-Test are in circulation. I prefer the one where in four trials four colours must be sorted in sequence of preference. There are shorter and longer test versions.

The general problem I have with diagnostic tests (this or methodologically tight ones) is that they just label a status, but do not describe a process by which to move on. They can also be faked, intentionally or with the subject not beign aware, since they base on the intellect to chose the answer to questions. A demand by the tester that the subject should act spontane, does not change that.

I do not comment the computer-version of the test shown on page one, since I am suspicious to computerised versions of originally material, real-worl tests, in principal. I imagine the day when you go to an automat like to a banking robot, and you enter your chip card and get asked for your colour preferences and the damn thing next tells you who you are (or what it thinks you should be like), and that you should do this or that. THX-1138, the movie, on my mind.

In offense (:DL) of the color test, what you described there could be done using the techniques of cold reading (something that 'psychics' use to gain insight in a person). I would be a lot more impressed if the person giving you the test never met you or observed you, and gave independently accurate results just from the colors you chose, that were validated before you were informed of the results (ie we got the answers from you before you knew the results).

I will also add that memory is a very flawed thing that tends not to be anywhere near as accurate as commonly thought, and that you may have colored this memory (different meaning) based on your beliefs and pre/post-conceptions. That this test was not quite as accurate as you now remember it being.

Sure dreams probably do carry a lot of subconscious stuff. But most of it is fairly obvious, and I think far less symbolic then people make it out to be. I still heartily disagree with the general attempts to translate supposed symbols from dreams into meaning. From what I have personally studied of dreams though, I think a lot of dreams are just noise.

I took that colour "test" and I tried very hard to take it seriously.

But the results were bogus.

At best they were ambiguous and could apply to anyone
At worst they were actually the direct opposite of my life
On the average they were not applicable.

I can't believe that a free five-minute two-question psychological test found on the Internets Tubes could be so wrong. :har::har::har::har:

But it was amusing to take. :yep:

you will have 7 years of feast
and 7 years of famine,
then you will have 7 more years...

:haha:

So you're going off to Egypt then . . . . not actually the perfect time you missed many hundreds of years LOL.

Funny one.