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ETR3(SS) 10-10-10 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead Nuke (Post 1512490)
...jam dive...

*shudders* man I hated those words. But it brings me to a sea story. My first MSC on the boat wasn't qualified a damn thing. As the saying goes he was breathing our air, eating our food, and filling up our san tanks. So finally the Chop makes him qualify something so he wasn't being a useless turd. He qualifies COW but only stood it a handful of times underway, mostly for head breaks. Then he tries his hand at qualifying Dive. We were in the Ship Control Trainer in off crew and he was getting his Dive UI's in. I'm glad this was the trainer and not at sea. The instructor threw in a jam dive. Every helmsman, planesman, COW, Dive, AEF, Aux Fwd etc. knew what to do and say during a jam dive and they know that every millisecond counts if you want to save the boat. So the stern planesman -being the observant watchstander that he is- notices that his stern planes are turning us into a mud dart. He goes through his immediate actions lickity split and informs the Dive UI (our MSC) that his stern planes are stuck at full dive. What should have happened is the Dive tells the Officer of the Deck about the situation and he in turn makes a split second decision to call out a Jam Dive or not. Well the Dive UI froze up and wouldn't say anything to the OOD. So there we are heading for the bottom when I got tired of waiting and performed the actions required to save the boat. It worked, and I got my ass chewed and praised by the instructor in the same sentence. Needless to say, that MSC never qualified Dive then.

Bubblehead Nuke 10-10-10 09:38 PM

Yes, that is a wheel. As to what it operates it is just guess. It may be a exhaust vent operator. Maybe it is it the torpedo shutter door operator.

Unfortunately, without have served on that class of boat I can not tell. If I could tour it and spend some time onboard I am sure I could tell you what it does. Trying to guess the function based on a photo is fruitless.

There are MANY things that the repeater on the bulkhead may represent.

Naval engineering being pretty standardized with slight variations based on cultural and economic forces lets look at this from an engineering standpoint.

The rudder and planes are operated by hydraulics. They have been since the WWI boats. Most boats of the were were designed to survive (on the surface) with 1 or 2 compartments flooded.

With that said, if you flood the engineroom you are pretty much screwed.

Why? Cause that is where you supply the hydraulic or the power to the hydraulics, not to mention all the gear that makes the boat move forward. At that point you use the controls in the control room to blow the tanks and hope you end up on the surface. If you survive you wait for a tow or get REAL resourceful and figure out how to dewater your engineroom, and fix all the resultant salt water damage to the vital equipment.

There are only two logical places to control the ship from. One is control (That is its function) and the other is from the actual control actuators. The important ones are in the engineroom. If control is flooded you can still control the ship in a limited but functional way. If the engineroom is flooded see above. Placing redundant controls in every compartment would do nothing but complicate your steering and diving hydraulics. This is a system that you want as simple and as small as possible. This minimizes the likely fault modes that would prevent a boat from being operated in a potentially lethal enviroment. It would also take up valuable space. Space that can be used to put a weapon, store some food, carry a spare part. NOTHING on a sub, prior to the nuclear powered ones, is there just because.


BTW: nice photo. Are there more?

I want to add something. There are only TWO tubes there. Are you sure that it not the AFT torpedo room? If it is then I would agree that it is an auxillary control station.

TLAM Strike 10-10-10 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead Nuke (Post 1512522)
BTW: nice photo. Are there more?

I want to add something. There are only TWO tubes there. Are you sure that it not the AFT torpedo room? If it is then I would agree that it is an auxillary control station.

Here are is the collection from CCIP:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=124914

Oooops you are right, looking at the actual thread CCIP says that is the aft torpedo room. :damn: Everyone ignore TLAM... :03:


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