In US presidential elections voters do only 2 things. They vote for the R or the D. Third party votes help one or the other if the state is in play---or do nothing at all otherwise.

I should add that I don't think that the right "hates" Obama nearly as much as the left hates Bush. In many cases the left seems to have been against hints solely to be contrarian. "we were for regime change before we were against it!"

I dislike Obama because I dislike most all his policy goals.

I disagree with Obama's policies. No hate or even dislike involved. I disagreed with Bush on Iraq and some other things. Same lack of animosity.

I notice that a large majority of the people who actively hated Bush were doing so long before he gave them a reason. Same with Obama. It's all politics and one-sided bigotry (and I'm talking political bigotry, no other).

It wasn't Republicans who put up the posters of Bush as Hitler. And that was all that August was referencing. It looked to me like he was speaking to the jackass politics of both sides.

So I'm a Democan or a Repocrat depending on which way I lean at the time?:)

That's what I'm talking about. So it must have been Democrats?

I posted this a long time ago, but I can't come up with anything better, so here it is again:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ht=republicrat

Who else hated Bush that much? Libertarians?

Maybe the Librarians? :D

SHHHH!!!

How about Joe Blow off the street. What is it, less than 1/3 actually vote. The rest still have opinions.

Why the Obama hatred?

I will admit I hate the man, I despise him.I have real reasons, not emotions because these are not even bad times for me etc.Honestly, the only way the recession has affected me is it has affected other people like some of my friends and a few family members, then I get angry because I see good people hurting while the President and his hooligans have wasted two years concentrated on his far left agenda instead of focusing on getting us back on the right track.

I despise Obama because of his post American views, because he actually has the power to push these post/anti American views into law and "fundamentally change" this nation.Obama does not believe in American exceptionalism which he should, because America has been an exceptional place, thus why we have been the "big dick" in the world for a long time now.Unlike great Presidents such as Ronald Reagan, who believed we are and should strive to be that shining city on the hill, Obama sees us as just another country.So instead of going our own way we should go the way of European style Socialism in his view.Sure Obama could never come out and say this, but actions and some well disguised words show what he really thinks.Is Obama full blown Socialist? No, but he does find socialism acceptable even though it is not to the vast majority of Americans.

This apathy towards America perhaps comes from Obama growing up outside the mainland and not understanding how great America really is.Perhaps he has some bitterness about his backround and upbringing.Add in his indoctrination into left wing ideology by his mother from the time he was small boy, it all has made the jerk that is sadly the current elected leader of the USA.

The hatred is overall not about his color(a small minority hates him because he is black, just how some black people hate all white people) , it is really aggravating and HIGHLY offensive when people pull the race card.This long worn out left wing tactic of distracting from an argument they can't win by using race is just crap:damn:

As I alluded to in an earlier post today, the hatred is conditioned. Ask someone why he hates or loves the President and you'll get a long and muddled stew of ideological rhetoric and quasi-philosophy. He'll lay on a lexicon of poli-speak derived from talk radio and cable television all designed to mask the fact that although they hate him, they don't really know why.

And how could they? Rhetoric aside, each side's job performance is identical. I suppose that this is why you always see the party affilitation listed after their names. After all, how could we tell which team they are on, and thus who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? And so we see that the guy belongs to Team R or Team D and we either love him and get all weepy or hate him with a frothing, blinding rage. The R and the D tell us everything we need to know. How very simple.

We have, by the industry that now surrounds politics, becomed conditioned to the point of recognition by brand only. It is as though some powerful person is running a gigantic sociological experiment.

I couldn't hate the man if he tried. He has come after one of the most inept and corrupt administrations in history. It took 8 years to screw up this country in so many ways, and it's going to take longer to fix it.

All the Obama bashing is a tactic, nothing less. If they stuff the news with all these negative Obama stories they feel they have a chance of winning the election, so the old republican noise machine is in full swing. Like Takeda said, the american people are being conditioned by the GOP friendly media, using their emotions not their heads. First there were little "cheeky" racist jokes, Then using the fear of Muslims by making up stories that "Obama practices Islam". Next, they used the fear of poor people and greed to say that instead of helping out the disadvantaged, you're money is being "taken from you" and given to "all these lazy poor rabble who don't deserve it". Then they used the fear of immigrants and mexicans in the latest arizona crisis.

I didn't say that. I leveled my complaint at all of the political media; not just right-wing media. Team D utilizes the very same tactics when they think it in their best interest.

Yeah, this is my concern as well. This is what's really undermining democracy, and sadly in the US more so than many other places. The fact is that politics is an industry almost everywhere in the west these days, but the difference for the US is that there's exponentially more money involved. This is where the consumer-style branding tactics and media polarizations come out of, to a large extent anyway.

Honestly, I think both socialists and libertarians can agree on the fact that big money really needs to go out of politics. I'm sceptical it ever will. However until it does, I don't think politics will ever truly go back to actual representation, because representation is something that cannot and should not be sold to voters.

I expanded on your idea. Yes, it's true democrats use similar tactics but in this case were speaking about vs. obama.

I have said before that politics in America is a display of Negative Dynamic Stability.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JGyMlGQKTS...negdynstab.jpg

Fact remains that we have had two back to back - highly divisive, highly polarizing presidents.

Fact remains that no matter who you put into congress there is a high degree of anger and resentment over the ever-increasing elitist / exempt from normal life status of congressional officials. (set for life retirement and health care... many of the laws they pass on to us dont apply to them etc)

fact remains that we need to have a candidate who is NOT divisive but who is capable of uniting this nation.

fact remains that we need a candidate who is more aligned with the center than the extreme.

I think that average American's would find that they agree on more than the political parties which claim to represent them let on.

i think there is a much larger middle ground we can meet on that is not even being played here... politically speaking we cant see the forest for the trees.

Are you suggesting that his agenda is NOT radical?

And, if not, what makes you believe that it is the color of his skin and not his agenda that causes people to dislike him?

From what I recall, he had early approval rating success. Has his skin color since changed or has he signed radical, expensive legislation that people are opposed to?

Great post! :yep:

I agree entirely. I think the majority, silent or otherwise, would probably much rather see different picks than they got, someone less extreme and divisive. Sadly however, it's a telling sign that not only the the last two presidents, but in fact most candidates with any sort of realistic chances of getting elected, were very divisive figures. Sadly the likely ones for 2012 so far aren't very encouraging, either...

Really? thats a surprise

:har::har::har::har::har:

For many years now a long succesion of administrations have certainly been acting like big dicks.

You really do live in an alternate reality don't you.
America is just another country, it always has been since its foundation and always will be until it disappears into history.