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The Third Man 09-02-10 08:43 PM

Notice of Proposed Rule which lasted two or three days last week.

Ducimus 09-02-10 09:01 PM

Switching all shot, bullets, and sinkers to something not lead, is as ludicrious as it is impractical. I mean, seriously the very notion that there's THAT much lead flying around outdoors to warrant such a change, youd think the outdoors was was big massive war zone.

There's only one instance where I can see a reasonable argument against lead, and thats in the case of water foul. As for any enviromental contamination by lead from firearms, the only example ive ever seen was what might as well be called a "redneck shooting range". I spent alot of time at Lytle creek as a kid. It was a dry river bed in a gulch, with an access road down one side, where several "lanes" and parking areas existed from repeated use. Back up your truck, drop the gate, lay out your pieces, put out your targets, and away you went. Man, I shot the hell out of some water jugs, tin cans, etc there. I even shot skeet out there. I heard they had to close it down for some years because of the lead. But that was after several years, and I'm guessing thousands of shooters, all concentrated in one area.

The Third Man 09-02-10 09:03 PM

So water foul are less worthy of a quick death than other game animals?

August 09-02-10 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1483754)
So water foul are less worthy of a quick death than other game animals?

What?

Ducimus 09-02-10 09:07 PM

The argument for water foul is that once the shot has travelled its course, it settles where ducks and other water foul can mistakenly eat it, thereby getting lead poisoning. That's where there's steel shot. I don't go duck hunting, and if I did, i'm not sure Id use steel shot anyway. It doesnt work as well as lead.

The Third Man 09-02-10 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1483755)
What?

Lead is the most efficient ammunition. It is deadly. Copper is questionable in the same regime.

NeonSamurai 09-03-10 08:23 AM

The problem with lead shot is that ducks, geese, and other water birds ingest small stones as part of their digestive system. If they ingest the lead pellets, they die from poisoning. Also there were problems with lead contaminated water, etc. Canada as I recall banned lead shot several years ago due to all the lead ending up in the waters.

August 09-03-10 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1483757)
Lead is the most efficient ammunition. It is deadly. Copper is questionable in the same regime.

There's nothing wrong with using steel shot for bird hunting.

yubba 09-04-10 01:45 PM

Gun control is being able to hit your target ,yes I'm a clinger, cling too my guns and a bottle of jack. I guess it's ok for big companies too use our planet like a toilet god for bid you have a gun range."EPA is taking action on many fronts to address major sources of lead in our society, such as eliminating childhood exposures to lead, and by not getting the armed criminals off the streets, but by taking your guns and ammo.

ETR3(SS) 09-04-10 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1484997)
yes I'm a clinger, cling too my guns and a bottle of jack..

Hopefully not at the same time right?:03:

em2nought 09-04-10 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1483422)

It's like they actually want to loose control of the government.

Maybe they got more "lefty" than they bargained for, and would rather lose than continue their current path. :yeah:

yubba 09-04-10 02:47 PM

Well that depends on what day it is. been thinking about getting this puppy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycUd_...eature=related


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