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Dowly 08-02-10 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005 (Post 1458311)
ahh well, thanks for that anyways. Is there a movie based on this story if so whats it named, will see if i can find it.

"Winter War" follows the JR23, there's no mention of this particular event in it, tho.

http://www.amazon.com/Winter-War-Tal.../dp/B0000646UN

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl98L6ZsX3A

kiwi_2005 08-02-10 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1458316)
"Winter War" follows the JR23, there's no mention of this particular event in it, tho.

http://www.amazon.com/Winter-War-Tal.../dp/B0000646UN

Ah yep i changed my post same time you must of been answering it. Will try and find Winter war. :up:

UnderseaLcpl 08-02-10 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005 (Post 1458319)
Ah yep i changed my post same time you must of been answering it. Will try and find Winter war. :up:

Please do. It's great, if a bit slow at first. If you liked Stalingrad, you'll like Winter War.

Dowly 08-02-10 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1458451)
Please do. It's great, if a bit slow at first. If you liked Stalingrad, you'll like Winter War.

Hear the man. :DL

Penguin 08-02-10 04:59 PM

Just like "Das Boot" you want to go with the long version of Talvisota which is over 3 hours. The character introduction/developement is much better in the long version. There is also a TV Version which is over 4 hours long, but I am not sure if you can get it with subtitles.

I have a copy of "Tali-Ihantala 1944" here, still haven't watched it though. The film didn't have a big budget, however it looks quite decent, it seems that the filmmakers valued authenticity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tali-Ihantala_1944 (you can find a link to the movie site at the end of the article)
Plus you can get it for a bargain price here, I paid roundabout 5 Euros for it:up:.

Dowly 08-02-10 05:04 PM

"Tali-Ihantala 1944" was pretty crap. The actors were from popular soap operas who couldn't act naturally. If I'd have to compare TI'44 to Talvisota, I'd say TIŽ44 is like U-571 and Talvisota is Das Boot. Very disappointed by the movie. :nope:

Penguin 08-02-10 05:23 PM

oh, ok, that's a harsh judgement maybe I should only watch the battle scenes of TI 44. However I think that the movie doesn't rewrite history like U-571 - so no small group of Finns who win the war by themselves and convince Stalin to give up and dance to polkka... :yep:

Dowly 08-02-10 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1458482)
oh, ok, that's a harsh judgement maybe I should only watch the battle scenes of TI 44. However I think that the movie doesn't rewrite history like U-571 - so no small group of Finns who win the war by themselves and convince Stalin to give up and dance to polkka... :yep:

I think it takes an Finn to see the bad acting as when I watch movies in other languages than english or finnish, I can't tell how natural the acting is. It did have some great scenes to it, but forgetting the bad acting, the whole documentary style of portraying things didn't really work, atleast for me. Where Talvisota does better is that it makes you follow the war from one point of view instead of jumping around different units like TI'44 does.

Of course, this is just my opinion off it, if someone is thinking of getting it, I'd advice to read some reviews and decide yourself. Like you said, you can get it cheap nowadays, so no harm done if one decides to get it for 5€.

:salute:

Penguin 08-02-10 06:00 PM

well, 99% of soap actors are crap, worldwide, easy to spot, easy to make fun of :03: - but trash movies are another thread... just a quick tip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BC..._Kurtaran_Adam

As the Winter/Continuation War is a unique piece of history and not covered very well in Central Europe, I am looking for any kind of info on it - even mediocre films are better than nothing - we have exactly 2 german books who cover this subject :cry:
If you happen to stumble upon the Talvisota TV-series with german,english or swedish subs, I would be happy if you let me know about - according to this shop there are no subs included: http://www.discshop.fi/shop/ds_produkt.php?lang=&id=71449〈=se&subsite=movies&& ref=

Dowly 08-02-10 06:04 PM

Found this one from Amazon, uncut 195min version imported from S.Korea. Korean & English subtitles:
http://www.amazon.com/Winter-War-TAL.../ref=pd_cp_d_1

kiwi_2005 08-02-10 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1458451)
Please do. It's great, if a bit slow at first. If you liked Stalingrad, you'll like Winter War.

I loved Stalingrad, so no doubt will enjoy Winter War. Speaking of Stalingrad I see theres the film Attack On Leningrad (2009) which i need to see as well.

UnderseaLcpl 08-03-10 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005 (Post 1458641)
I loved Stalingrad, so no doubt will enjoy Winter War. Speaking of Stalingrad I see theres the film Attack On Leningrad (2009) which i need to see as well.

Just looked that up on Amazon and I'm ordering it. Thanks for the heads-up:salute:

Dowly 08-20-10 11:03 AM

On a completely off-topic note:

My mom's grrreat! She brought me shirt like this the other day :rock: (Kiitos = Thank you)
http://www.prokarelia.net/ihantala/kiitos_i.jpg

Jimbuna 08-20-10 07:14 PM

Why the German parading in front of the Finnish flag? :O:

UnderseaLcpl 08-20-10 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1473058)
Why the German parading in front of the Finnish flag? :O:

It beats having a Russian parading over a Finnish flag.

Dowly 08-20-10 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1473058)
Why the German parading in front of the Finnish flag? :O:

It is a Finn, we used german helmets. Also the rifle is clearly an finnish 'pystykorva', :yep:

Jimbuna 08-21-10 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1473061)
It is a Finn, we used german helmets. Also the rifle is clearly an finnish 'pystykorva', :yep:

GOTCHA!

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