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Gerald 06-22-10 01:12 PM

Yes!
 
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Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1425558)
They look like something for kids to play on in a park.

So much for swings and slides.:haha:

Or some suitably recreation area for landlubber....:agree:

Jimbuna 06-22-10 01:13 PM

Could be the next high tec super top secret design awaiting export to NK :hmmm:

Weiss Pinguin 06-22-10 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1425558)
They look like something for kids to play on in a park.

So much for swings and slides.:haha:

DUDE

If my park had that thing I would spend every day messing with it. And pretend to fire off torpedoes at all the monkey bars and slides and forts :haha:

Buddahaid 06-22-10 02:27 PM

Well I don' see a covered shaft hole, dive planes, or a moveable rudder. Matbe it used an external electric motor on a steerable pod? Or maybe it was just a low tech trainer for ballast control? Towed?

Schroeder 06-22-10 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 1425642)
Well I don' see a covered shaft hole, dive planes, or a moveable rudder. Matbe it used an external electric motor on a steerable pod? Or maybe it was just a low tech trainer for ballast control? Towed?

Maybe all that stuff was removed/reused when that thing got put up on display. I guess it's more difficult to conserve moveable parts than just putting the hulk there. :hmm2:

flatsixes 06-22-10 05:22 PM

It's the last remaining example of the infamous North Korean manned mine (code named the "African Queen.)" It was to be towed it out to the shipping lanes, where it would be submerged to periscope depth and wait for something to run into it. Immediately upon visual contact, the crew would inflate a huge yellow mylar balloon tethered to the periscope that read "FREE BEER HERE" and then light the fuses on the torpedoes before running away. Like I said, there were two of these, once.

Jimbuna 06-23-10 04:52 AM

How do you 'run away' from a submerged submarine? :hmmm:

:DL

flatsixes 06-23-10 06:47 AM

A design flaw, to be sure.

krashkart 06-23-10 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1426103)
How do you 'run away' from a submerged submarine? :hmmm:

:DL

With good running flippers, of course. :shucks:

NeonSamurai 06-23-10 09:08 AM

I do think I see mounting points for a rudder on it though, there looks to be a hole for the rudder just aft of the vertical fin on the underside that it would be attached to, plus the 4 holes (I assume on each side) on that fin for support mountings.

As for dive planes I can't see any sign of mounting points anywhere on the aft of the sub, though there may have been planes just below the torpedo tubes on the bow. There are hole(s) just below the tubes, and a set of brackets above the tube.

I wonder though if this was a full scale prototype that didn't not go any further in development. I still can't see any trace of a propulsion system though, or support brackets for propulsion, though I do wonder what those square cutouts just in front of the rudder fin are.

Weiss Pinguin 06-23-10 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai (Post 1426255)
I wonder though if this was a full scale prototype that didn't not go any further in development. I still can't see any trace of a propulsion system though, or support brackets for propulsion, though I do wonder what those square cutouts just in front of the rudder fin are.

Maybe a mock-up? Too bad there's no pictures looking inside.

AVGWarhawk 06-23-10 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin (Post 1426272)
Maybe a mock-up? Too bad there's no pictures looking inside.


Yeah, it might be a mock up. Agreed, I do not see props. The rudder is welded right to the body of the submarine. No evidence of actual planes. The hand rail around the sail looks odd to me. Probably a hollow shell :hmmm:

Weiss Pinguin 06-23-10 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1426384)
The hand rail around the sail looks odd to me.

If you look the ends of the railing are open and look a little off, but they might have just been unfinished. But some other details just appear somewhat shoddy and unlike what you might expect to see on a working submarine...

AVGWarhawk 06-23-10 02:01 PM

I think it is a Bulgarian submarine that might have plied the waters of the Black Sea. :03:

TLAM Strike 06-23-10 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1426483)
I think it is a Bulgarian submarine that might have plied the waters of the Black Sea. :03:

I thought that too, Soviet Malyutka-class from WWII. But its too short, the sail is in the wrong spot and it appears to only have 2 tubes (it could have four but where would the engines go?)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2343/sy009t.jpg

Unless you are talking about some other boat, the only Bulgarian subs I've found were one in WWI, this, whiskeys and romeos.

gimpy117 06-23-10 05:13 PM

looks like a "Sea-wolf-fodder" class

Buddahaid 06-24-10 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin (Post 1426409)
If you look the ends of the railing are open and look a little off, but they might have just been unfinished. But some other details just appear somewhat shoddy and unlike what you might expect to see on a working submarine...

I'm sure those rails are just added on to keep visitors from falling off, and not the sea-going set-up.

Weiss Pinguin 06-24-10 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 1427460)
I'm sure those rails are just added on to keep visitors from falling off, and not the sea-going set-up.

Or there's always that :smug:


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