Well said.:salute:

So the leftwing media (as an example) is a race now :o....fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuu. I assume if you want something you will also pay the price for it. After the payday come back and try to repeat what you sad (if you will be able to do so). Have a nice day:up:

Some scholars point to the invention of alcohol in the late 1980's as the beginning of the end.
Plenty of great kids being raised by great parents. As always.
Somebody dig up that Socrates (Aristotle?) quote about those BLOODY KIDS THESE DAYS

I didn`t mention the whole mankind in that matter, and when it comes to "dig up" i think i am not so good at it. Its probably something that have to do with freedom of expression or something:hmmm:. Not anyone like it...as always.

Anyway, what`s your main point? Want to prove me wrong or say that my opinion is harsh? Educate your kids so they will have some values in life. Bye :salute:

It seems you have gotten the hidden irony. Political correctness first leads to extremes that lead it ad absurdum, and then to even worse situations where a cleanup seems to be the only thing that can get rid of the whole mess again. that way it acchieves what it claims to prevent: chaos.

Either these self-destroying "trends" get broken, or their ideologic originators succeed. I absolutely detest the perspective of the latter, and I have no trust anymore to break up the many degenerations of our culture. If they want to bring this culture down, then not without a fight, I say, no matter whether it is islam or left ideology. Let'S chase away both - for the sake of those coming after us.

there is a reason why revolutions mostly were revolutions indeed. It was because negotiations or reforming attempts did not work.

And as they say: an external enemy unites us, immediate needs and suffering washes illusions out of our heads. When it is only about mere physical survival anymore , the mind does not care much for stupid ideologies disconnected from reality anymore, but tries to figure how to survive the next day.

I think he is saying that your opinion is as old as the hills and is recycled in every generation in a reactionary manner which kinda makes it in essence a meaningless opinion.

This is not how I see today's world.
I'm most definitely what you describe as "only caring about parties and alcohol", and many female friends of mine are so as well (as far as partying is concerned, I'm in the lucky position to know more girls than guys :lol::yeah:)

But I know not a single girl of my age who is pregnant or has a child.
They are out there, surely. But don't pretend it's common.

Surely, girls dress much more "sexy" than they did in the past. But is this necessarily a bad thing? From all girls I know (mostly age 17-19), I can tell you all of them do very definitely so have values and self respect. Why make (young) women hide their bodies? You say they have no self-respect, because they hide much less of their body features than past generations. But doesn't the simple fact that they dare to show their looks indicate they're proud of their bodies? Which automatically means they do have self respect.

I din`t say its a bad thing, there are difference between dress openly and dress like an dirty @@@@, especially at age when girl don`t have a passport. If that what moves you its your own business not mine, i`am sorry.

Jumping from one extreme to the other..... You came to the wrong room, jihad - next door.

Right... They so proud that you can find they private body parts on the internet... GOOD JOB. :yeah:.

What is this have to do with the topic? O wait i get it... whatever.:nope: I just don`t want to turn this thread into one big roman mess. Boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Very good. I will drink for that.

Sure they out there, ready to play 'throw baby into dumpster before parents come home', not so hard to figure out.:88).

Want some more. Coming right up:up:. Beating a girlfriend half to death and post it on the web to gain attention, smells good? I think this one is classic. Real man do this all the time... GOOD JOB :yeah:

Is that next door to the modesty "police" where women are attacked in the streets of Jerusalem for not covering their tempting flesh in the approved manner?
The only age when a girl doesn't have a passport is the age when the girls parents didn't apply for one:doh:

And that's bad why?
As long as they do it voluntarily and not while being filled up, I don't see the problem.

Is that the way it works in Israel? Over here it doesn't. I won't deny that teen pregnancies do happen, but it is not the norm.
Again, is this standard behaviour in Israel? Over here it isn't.
I only know one case personally where such a thing happened (without posting it on the net) and that was a Christian girl living together with a Lebanese.... do I have to say anything more on that case.:shifty:

It was not my point, i didn`t even mentioned any country in particular but if your arguments ends up this way its speaks for itself.

where do you come up with such drivel?

Israel is a very secular society. Women have as much freedom there as women in north america or western europe.

If you are so worried about the status of women, maybe you should focus on the treatment of women in muslim countries.

Well in Finland you can notice the moral decline in girls and young women.

Large number of them drink, smoke and party in a way that doesnt interest any man interested in a serious relationship.

They are in all social groups, university students seem to have a lot of time to drink especially.

Other common features.

They dont know how to use money responsibly or budget even a month beforehand.

They cant cook.

They cant clean.



Now i can personally say that any of these features doesnt make me start to consider a relationship with a woman.
In my opinion there is nothing more important in a womans life than to be a good mother to her children.

But in the future we will have a lot more of smoking female alcoholics that cant manage their daily lifes let alone children.

But what can you expect when they all love looking from TV and movies how 50yrs old single women mess their life in New York.:dead:

Depends on many things. Police in many cases in favor of Arabs, now who control the police? That your answer. Thats not mean however that my country follows sharia law or something like that. You can find Arab woman in my city who have a good look because they don`t suffer from a lack of sun.:sunny:

As i sad, my point was an education and not nationality or religious fanaticism. This is what destroys the values of life and self respect, and someone will pay a heavy price for it. Saturday first, Sunday next :D.... GOOOD JOB :yeah:

That's how I think about it:up:
But even then, I know nobody who shows their private parts on internet. There are girls like that, but it isn't part of todays culture.

(to be honest, the use of the word "filled up" is quite disturbing here:o)
:O:

I don't even know a single girl who's been beaten up by her partner.
I can assure you, it isn't seen as tough or "real man" behaviour.

well, since you're specifically talking about party-going and alcohol loving girls, it shows that I know what I'm talking about.
(also, it was an attempt to bring a little humour into the thread. If you don't get it, your problem)

Whuh?! What in Odin's name does the jihad have to do with this:-?

Well you claim all these things to be normal aspects of todays youth culture. While they clearly aren't aspects of todays Western European youth culture. So you're either plainly wrong, or the Western European youth culture differs from the Israelian youth culture.

Well personally I like the girls who are the heaviest drinkers and party-goers best.

aye:DL
What's better than some good old drinking:yeah:

So why does it by definition have to be a woman doing these things? Can't a man do it all just as well?
Also, you can always learn cooking and cleaning.

But there's a difference between college life and being a parent. Sure, nowadays students drink and party and what not more, but that doesn't make us "smoking alcoholics".
I and my friends are heavy drinkers and party goers, and most of my friends smoke the occasional weed, but none of us is an addict in any way, and we all can be very responsible if needed.

Only men should be allowed drink and smoke. Obviously.

We're allowed to have declining morals (I think it's an astronomical term). They're not.

On yer back, love. Children required.

I was referring to mainstream jewish women, not israeli arabs or orthodox jews.

Aye! On yer way to the kitchen love!
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You said, that girls throw their babies into the gutter. So I asked whether this is the case where you live because it is not the case in Europe. So where do you see this happening?