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Ducimus 05-18-10 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 1396599)
PJC

Nuff said......

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FIREWALL 05-18-10 06:14 PM

Find a lawyer in So. Cal or anywhere else for that matter for $300.00 or less ? :har::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::har:


Platapus 05-18-10 06:23 PM

it all depends on the judge and that you have no control over.

Good luck with it, but it does not sound like anyone "screwed" you over. :nope:

Speeding is like playing an anti-lottery. Most of the time you will get away with it and often some other guy gets pulled over. This was your time.

Platapus 05-18-10 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1396594)
This place is way over crowded.


California freeways were insane back when I lived there. You could be driving at 0200 on a Wednesday and there would still be traffic jams. :damn:

Southern California is a 24/7 traffic jam. I don't ever want to move back there.

Zachstar 05-18-10 07:12 PM

Why are some of you trying to give him advice for fighting it? That's false hope. 81 in a 65 means he is well outside of grace and is screwed in court. They wont mind showing up as that means he gets to have the book thrown at him and court costs for the state. They wont show up for less than 10 but past 10 and this is just too juicy for the state to ignore.

Just pay the ticket.

Platapus 05-18-10 07:31 PM

When I was auditing court cases for my undergrad degree, it was a rarity for a police officer, in Nebraska, not to show up. In many (most?) states the police are now paid for their court days and judges coordinate the trial with the officer's court schedule.

So if your defense is based on the officer not showing up, I think you will be mistaken.

If you would like to be represented by an attorney but cannot afford one, contact the Legal Aid Society or the San Diego Volunteer Lawyer Program:
Legal Aid Society: (877) 534-2524
San Diego Volunteer Lawyer Program: (619) 235-5656

CaptainHaplo 05-18-10 08:11 PM

Sorry Ducimus - I really should have been more clear.

PJC - Prayer for Judgement - Continued. May not apply in CA - but basically you ask for the case to be in abayence - as long as you don't get another ticket for a specified amount of time - then the whole thing disappears. If you get another ticket - you get slapped with both of them. Its a way to stay clean and have a good reason not to be silly and speed again.

I-25 05-18-10 08:14 PM

tnks a bunch man:up:
i never got a speeding ticket in SH III :cry:

CaptainHaplo 05-18-10 08:25 PM

I-25 - never used my nuke boat mod then huh? :rotfl2:

Ducimus 05-19-10 04:52 AM

I used to drive 80 all the time. I slowed down when i traded my V6 for a 4 banger.

Im looking at where some of you all are from, because of the constant mentioning of 81 in a 65, but im telling ya, a posted limit of 65 on the freeway doesn't mean much here. Even when the posted speed limit was 55 back when i was 16, the "real " speed limit was 75. I cop won't stop you for 75 unless he's REALLY having a bad day.

My point is, its a different driving culture out here. I completely believe he got stopped for 81. States bankrupt and needs the money. In the past, he probably wouldn't have. To give you a contrast, the posted speed limit in a school zone in missippi is 10 or 15 MPH if memory serves, here its 25.

The posted speed limit on a freeway is more of a formality really. In some places it is posted at 70, but again, ive never been stopped (on the freeway) doing 75 regardless if the posted limit was 55, or 65, or 70.

That said, a single mile past 80 and your pushing your luck.

I guess i say this more out of protest to "Mr 65 MPH in the fast lane". Everyone else is doing 75 MPH (give or take a few MPH), but this guy has to park himself in hammer lane and be an obstruction to everyone nearby. I don't know where these people come from, but they need to get with the program.

Zachstar 05-19-10 06:48 AM

If the speed limit needs to be changed write to those in charge. If someone is dare I saw following the law. People need to just be patient and stop the speeding madness.

I-25 05-19-10 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1396980)
I guess i say this more out of protest to "Mr 65 MPH in the fast lane". Everyone else is doing 75 MPH (give or take a few MPH), but this guy has to park himself in hammer lane and be an obstruction to everyone nearby. I don't know where these people come from, but they need to get with the program.

well said.

what pissed me off was not the fact i got pulled but how the officer treated me like a nobody. he didnt even tell me i was gonna get the ticket till he handed it to me to sign.

GoldenRivet 05-19-10 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by I-25 (Post 1397215)
well said.

what pissed me off was not the fact i got pulled but how the officer treated me like a nobody. he didnt even tell me i was gonna get the ticket till he handed it to me to sign.

I had this exact experience with a cop in Louisiana.

he was a real ass. :shifty:

Platapus 05-19-10 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 1396719)
Sorry Ducimus - I really should have been more clear.

PJC - Prayer for Judgement - Continued. May not apply in CA - but basically you ask for the case to be in abayence - as long as you don't get another ticket for a specified amount of time - then the whole thing disappears. If you get another ticket - you get slapped with both of them. Its a way to stay clean and have a good reason not to be silly and speed again.

In some states it is also known as PBJ Probation before judgment.

UnderseaLcpl 05-19-10 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar (Post 1397034)
If the speed limit needs to be changed write to those in charge.

And then what? Do you really imagine that the number of people who are dissatisfied enough with the speed limit to write to City Hall or the state will ever be enough to change the opinions of anyone who makes policy?

No, ZS, they will not. That's why people are speeding. When the law gets stupid or overly restrictive, people just quit obeying it. Singling out one motorist every thirty minutes or so on a stretch of highway where everyone is speeding is not effective safety policy, it's a cash scam.

If city or state policymakers really cared about motorists' safety, they'd up the driver's-ed requirements and make the driving test much more difficult. They'd also stiffen the incarceration penalties for drunk driving. But that isn't what they care about, or at least, not primarily. The main thing they care about is keeping their jobs, and in their line of work that means not pissing off voters or the budget committee and appearing to care.

Insurance companies have long been aware of what really causes traffic accidents, and it shows in their business models. They charge higher rates for young drivers because they know that driver-training is bad, and that young drivers are more prone to driving under the influence. If you get a DUI, your rates really shoot up, and sometimes the company just drops you to the curb. They adjust rates based on where you live, especially if there are a lot of intersections in the area.

Which brings me to another point: the main causes of vehicle accidents. Do you know what the main cause of vehicle accidents is? I don't. Statistics vary. My guess would be alcohol or intersections. But I can certainly tell you it isn't from people driving above the posted speed limit in the same direction on a multi-lane freeway. German autobahns have only advisory speed limits and that seems to work just fine for them.

Like I said, cash scam. And above that, it is dereliction of duty by the officials of government who are entrusted with the establishment of an efficient and safe transportation system. As such, I have no compunction about (wisely) suggesting that I-25 seek free legal consultation in an attempt to determine whether he can get out of this ticket.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachstar
People need to just be patient and stop the speeding madness.

Unfortunately, that is not always an option. People have places to go, obligations to fulfill, and deadlines to meet..... even your venerated and trusted state overseers.

Zachstar 05-19-10 09:04 PM

Geezus its called leaving 5 mins earlier instead of staying to see the end of the soap opera. Is it really that difficult?

Ducimus 05-19-10 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachstar (Post 1397745)
Geezus its called leaving 5 mins earlier instead of staying to see the end of the soap opera. Is it really that difficult?


As if 5 minutes would help during rush hour when your going to or leaving work.

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Did i mention California is overcrowded? Last i was in the south, (lousiana, mississippi, alabama) i don't remember traffic being anywhere near as bad as it is in california.

Now, my GF finds this a ridiculous and foreign notion, so maybe its something uniquely californian, but she finds it preposterious, so i'll mention it here. I, my family, and everyone i know raised here does something that is apparently really wierd. Arranging trips to avoid traffic.

This basically means leaving where your at by a certain hour, or even a certain day. I would cut a vacation short to avoid sunday going back into town traffic. My GF finds cutting a vacation short a day to avoid traffic a completely foreign concept. To me, its just common sense and part of daily living.

As for your daily commute, you know what? It doesnt really matter when you leave half the time. Sure you could leave alloting time for distance and your typical traffic. But what you can't account for is CalTrans and accidents. All it takes is one idiot, and the next thing you know all the traffic in the above pictures is being funneled down to 1 lane.

Calfornia department of transportation (CALTrans) is also a joy. Because if they're is no traffic, fear not, they'll make some for you by shutting lanes down doing whatever work it is that they do.

My theory is that alot of people here are frustrated due to the congestion. When i lived in Buena Park, a 10 minute commute could take 45 minutes. At any rate, my point here is when schit happends, you find yourself forced into a situation where you have to make up for lost time. As i said earlier, everyone has somehwere to be, and they needed to be there yesterday.

This public service announcement brought to you by a Californian against Overcrowding. Sweet jesus on a pogo stick people! STOP MOVING HERE!

ReallyDedPoet 05-19-10 10:02 PM

Friends of mine were recently there on a trip, said the traffic was :o:o:o:yep:
Now I see why.

magic452 05-20-10 02:22 AM

When I lived in SO. Cal I planed my trips vary carefully.
I drove to Reno Nevada and never went back.
That was 30+ years ago and it was insane there then.

Any time I had to go back to see the folks I left at 11:00 pm and rolled in there at about 6:00 am.

Magic

I-25 06-24-10 01:48 AM

UPDATE


384 dlls...:nope:

dam


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