I'm stunned how far they dare to go.
they should be more than happy to are allowed to live in the U.S.A.

you're on the right track.

Personally i think that all Public schools should have uniforms.

I went to a private school, we were required to wear uniforms.

we b*tched about it for about a week and then it sort of went by the wayside.

on the positive not... nobodys clothes were any more or less offensive or provocative / revealing than anyone else's.

I know what my kids are wearing next may 5, now, lol.

If we had the german equivalent (I have a german surname), they'd need to celebrate most days of May and June, lol.

Charter schools in Baltimore are now uniformed schools. I like uniforms because there is never any question in my house as to what to wear for school on any given day and it saves me a bundle every year because I do not need to buy the latest trends in clothing/shoes. I think we have had this discussion before and I was basically called an ass for liking uniforms for schools. :hmmm:

I didn't because I agree with you.

Same goes for me.

Hmmmm...perhaps it was something else them. Gray matter getting old. :oops:

Yep, like me. I'm too old to go to school but I can't even imagine what would happen if (hypothetically) I went to school wearing Czech flag t-shirt on October 28th and was making big fuss about Americans wearing their colors. :nope:
But Mexicans are given so many liberties that it blows my mind.
If you are so proud to be Mexican that you are offended about Americans wearing THEIR colors in THEIR country on YOUR holiday the pack the f--- up and go back to Mexico.
Either assimilate or get out!
(The same goes for Indians and Somalis)

i should clarify though...

I was only in private school for a little under 2 years. Upon leaving the 8th grade private school i went to a public high school.

talk about culture shock. :haha:

It was quite an eye opener in more ways than one.

in the private school you had basically 4 or 5 pairs of shirts and slacks. and thats it.

in the public school, you never knew what you were going to see.

I once wore a T-shirt to school i got in trouble for... it had a golf ball logo on the front left breast.

on the back a golf tee, broken and laying on a torn patch of green grass with dirt with the caption "Par Sucks" :shifty:

the kid in another class routinely wore a shirt which had a rooster and a cat staring each other down as if about to fight.

the cat was calling the rooster a "chicken" and the rooster was calling the cat a "pussy".

he never got into any trouble with it that im aware of.

and you always had the way way way too short skirts, problem is these were only worn by two types of women.

either it was the unattainable senior super model in the making, cheer leading team captain - though this was rare

or it was (more commonly) the 350 lb girl from the movie "precious" wearing the mini-skirts

none of the cute, "attainable" girls ever wore that sort of thing unfortunately. :shifty:

you had the bikers, the gangsters, the rednecks the goths, the preps and it was all really sad.

in the uniformed school, i noticed that 1. Cliques were way less likely to exist (though they did) but they were less distinguishable 2. nobody got in trouble for their clothes, 3. nobody got made fun of for their clothing choices - because you say something mean about someones uniform choice, it was inevitable that you would be wearing the exact damned thing you made fun of on Thursday :doh:

unfortunately i think that most of your 16-17-18 year old crowd wouldnt even get it... or be able to identify the flag at all for that matter.

to quote one of my 17 year old students directly "You go to school to socialize and get girls, and make friends... not to learn stuff!"

No. No uniforms in public educational institutions with mandatory attendance requirements. If private schools want uniforms, that's fine, but none in public schools. That's coercion, and it is immoral. Public schools do enough of that BS already, which is why our educational system sucks.

Maybe uniforms are a good choice and maybe they aren't, but until the public school system is on equal competitive footing with the private school system, there should be no mandate for uniforms. Let the public schools compete. Take away their fiat funding and let parents decide what to do with it. Use a voucher system, or something similar. If schools that use uniforms perform better, we'll end up with a glut of schools with every kind of uniform imaginable. If uniforms are ultimately viewed as detrimental, there will still be schools that use uniforms for people to choose.

I've always been against vouchers, but I can see your point WRT mandatory attendance vs uniforms I suppose.

Ah yes...here it is...the uniform argument I was thinking of. :hmmm: To be sure...check out the public charter schools that are uniformed schools and do complete on the same level as private schools.

http://www.mycsp.org/index.php

Except that the parents of kids in private school have to pay for the public schools AND private school.

I think the big issue with schools is NOT the school, it's the kids/parents. Charter schools, private schools, etc, select for involved parents and families that care about education. That's why private schools are better, not because the teachers are better, or the facilities. ALl the parents are willing to pony up thousands of dollars a year, so they clearly place significant value on education.

Valuing education, and not paying the money works just as well, IMO—unless the school has a critical mass of kids who don't value education.

This would never happen i should think.

If thats the way we will play it, i think that any family with kids in private school should be exempt from a certain percentage of taxes that support public education.

the thing about public education is that anyone from any walk of life has access to it...

the problem with that is... probably something like 1 in 20 actually want to be there.

True and I do.

I want to add an amendment to this idea, it only applies to hot chicks.:D

Hah.. heard somewhere today that one of the boys sent home, his father is Mexican :har:

Me too :)

The principal acted outside his authority. I am glad that the school district came out and stated that they are not in agreement with what this individual did. I suspect that there will be some disciplinary action taken against this individual. A review of California Government Code Sections 430-439 show no justification for the actions of this individual.

I feel that it is important to recognize that this was the act of an individual and not the California school system, nor the government of California.

What this individual did was wrong.