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pickinthebanjo 05-05-10 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafka BC (Post 1383111)
During my month long work term aboard the Imperial St. Clair, a tanker, I had to trace and draw the entire piping system of the ship as part of my training program. It was hard following the convoluted jumble they became at times while working twelve hour shifts (mostly as a wiper and lackey - the mop became a good friend), trying to catch sleep...and being seasick.

I always find that the first few days aboard are the worst, after that it's not so bad (at least not on the fishing barge). What gets me is after returning to the pier and I still feel like I'm on the barge for the next couple hours.

Whats it like aboard a tanker? On the barge I worked on we got rocked around pretty good.

JMV 05-05-10 07:56 PM

May be we should ask SIEMENS for the TDC manual. They should have that somewhere in their archives.

Anybody working for SIEMENS or having a relative in good places ?? :hmmm:

pickinthebanjo 05-05-10 11:08 PM

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/attack/index.htm - American

http://hnsa.org/doc/torpedo-qual-mk37/index.htm More American

http://hnsa.org/doc/s-boat/index.htm - American S-Boat Training Manual

http://hnsa.org/doc/subphrase/index.htm - More American stuff

http://hnsa.org/doc/pdf/suborders.pdf - Some sort of Manual/Log, American

http://hnsa.org/doc/pdf/duff.pdf - American medical study of submariners during WWII

http://hnsa.org/doc/banjo/index.htm - More American Torpedo Guidance information

http://hnsa.org/doc/attackfinder/index.htm - American

http://hnsa.org/doc/destroyer/depthprojector/index.htm - K Gun Information

http://hnsa.org/doc/destroyer/depthprojector1/index.htm - Y Gun Information

http://home.cogeco.ca/~gchalcraft/sm/attack.html - British

http://hnsa.org/doc/depthcharge6/index.htm
- Us Depth Charges

http://hnsa.org/doc/ecat/index.htm - Catalouge of Us Electronic Equipment

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTUS_WWII.htm - US Torpedoes of WWII

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pickinthebanjo 05-05-10 11:15 PM

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pickinthebanjo 05-05-10 11:16 PM

I appolagise for that big dial, I decided to let it stay as it adds character to the post :rotfl2:

I set it as my wall paper

Kafka BC 05-05-10 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickinthebanjo (Post 1383273)
I always find that the first few days aboard are the worst, after that it's not so bad (at least not on the fishing barge). What gets me is after returning to the pier and I still feel like I'm on the barge for the next couple hours.

Whats it like aboard a tanker? On the barge I worked on we got rocked around pretty good.

For the first few days the weather was good and I wasn't sick at all. But it was March and rough weather hit in the Gulf of St.Lawrence and didn't let up for two weeks.

I had been on the ocean before on smaller vessels like fishing boats, and had sailed on the Brad'Or Lakes of Cape Breton Island when I was a kid so I thought I could handle it...I couldn't. This was something different. Those big, long, slow rolls would cause the nausea to build up to almost unbearable points. I quickly learned, like many before me, that if you went outside into the fresh air and could see the horizon it would almost go away. But down inside the engine room, with no exterior points of reference, it was another matter.

I wished I had a hammock to sleep in, the bed in my cabin was useless. I ended up sleeping on the floor, braced between it and the wall. Later on, one of the crew told me the Imperial St. Clair was considered the worst seaboat in the fleet. I don't know if that was true, but it sure felt like it.

I did get over some of it by my final week, and I too needed to reacquaint myself with the land when it was over. I remember my friends thought I walked "funny".

pickinthebanjo 05-06-10 12:06 AM

Just imagine what the crews aboard the U-boats had to endure, I can't see those fairing well on the surface in calm seas forget a storm.

Kafka BC 05-06-10 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickinthebanjo (Post 1383490)
Just imagine what the crews aboard the U-boats had to endure, I can't see those fairing well on the surface in calm seas forget a storm.

I don't know what the seakeeping characteristics of the U-boats were, but from the collection of pictures that I have they seem to be alright in calm weather. As an educated guess it looks like that at a Sea State of 4 (waves and chop of 1.25 to 2.5 meters), Beaufort Wind Scale of 4 (wind of 5.5–7.9 meters/second), and moderate to short sea swells, that things start getting "lively". Its probably a bit better for the type IX and most certainly worse for the type II.

Silent Hunter III dosn't model any of this. It does, however, correctly limits the game to a Beaufort Scale of 7 (wind 13.9–17.1 m/s). Anything higher and the player would have to show true seamanship skills, usually by pointing the ship into the wind, waves, and swells and using your rudder and engines to maintain steerage or this could happen. From what I've read, if you loose steerage under those conditions, its damn hard to get it back.

(Edit: I was tired when I wrote this, and strayed a bit. But yes, I can imagine what those U-Boat crews had to endure. As well, can you imagine the reek of vomit from the "unseasoned crewmen" in such an enclosed environment as a U-Boat.)

(I just noticed that I became a Swabbie with this post. Yesterday, I was a Bilge Rat. I'm normally not much for communicating, now I've become a wordy bugger.)

JMV 05-06-10 05:40 AM

To Pickinthebanjo :

In your Post # 23, what kind of code is that in the last picture ?

Suberb and interesting pictures BTW :up:
And a few documents I didn't have as well. :up:

Thanks a bunch ! :rock:

pickinthebanjo 05-06-10 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMV (Post 1383612)
To Pickinthebanjo :

In your Post # 23, what kind of code is that in the last picture ?

Suberb and interesting pictures BTW :up:
And a few documents I didn't have as well. :up:

Thanks a bunch ! :rock:

I honestly have no Idea

pickinthebanjo 05-06-10 10:54 AM

I am determined to find more german info, specifically about fire control systems and I will continue to post my findings

JMV 05-06-10 11:02 AM

Thanks for the info Pickintebanjo,

I am from the Enigma forum, so I always am intriged about ciphers, and stuff..
Thank you again for your very interesting informations.

pickinthebanjo 05-06-10 05:04 PM

If thats the case I have copies of most of the Kreigsmarine and Luftwaffe Code books, I just have to find them (large hard-drive) if you want them

pickinthebanjo 05-06-10 05:24 PM

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-570BritishReport.htm - Very informative report on U-570 (VIIC ?)

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-574INT.htm - Report on the capture on U-574

pickinthebanjo 05-06-10 06:15 PM

Engineering in the Royal Navy - http://www.hnsa.org/doc/pdf/engmag.pdf

U.S. Sonar operators Manual - http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/sonar/index.htm

Ship camouflage Instructions - http://www.hnsa.org/doc/camo/index.htm

Anatomy of a VII - http://www.scribd.com/doc/23575323/A...ype-Vii-U-Boat

U.S. 21-Inch Submerged Torpedo Tubes - http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/tubes/index.htm

U.S. Submarine Periscope Manual - http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/pscope/index.htm

Main Propulsion Diesels - http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/diesel/index.htm

German Optics - http://forum.sukhoi.ru/attachment.ph...2&d=1255798351

JMV 05-06-10 07:04 PM

Wooow ! Very impressive ! Again thanks a bunch for all that Pickinthebanjo.
I had a few among them, but now I could be taken for a real librarian on the subject ( of subs )

pickinthebanjo 05-06-10 11:48 PM

Hedgehogs - http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/hedgehogs.htm

Depth charges - http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/depth_charges.htm

Personally I find depth charges a hell of a lot scarier than hedgehogs as depth charges don't need to contact the boat in order to do massive damage where as the hedgehogs need to contact the surface of the boat

http://www.uboat.net/allies/technica...lustration.gif

pickinthebanjo 05-07-10 12:00 AM

British Radar - http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/uk_radars.htm\

HF/DF - http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/hfdf.htm

ASDIC SONAR - http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/asdic.htm

Sonobuoys - http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/sonobuoys.htm

Magnetic Anomaly Detection - http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/mad.htm

Interview with Erich Topp
http://www.uboat.net/articles/65.html

U-boats in the Med. - http://www.uboat.net/articles/64.html

JMV 05-07-10 04:11 AM

Wow wow wow Pickingthebanjo,:yeah: You're truly inexhaustible...

Keep them coming, we want more, more, more ! :haha:

The bad side is that the quality has gone done quite sgnificantely :nope:

pickinthebanjo 05-07-10 09:04 AM

U-Boat training manual for VIIC (Translated to English) - http://uboatarchive.net/Manual.htm

IXC Design studies - http://www.uboatarchive.net/DesignStudiesTypeIXC.htm


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