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Shandiir 04-19-10 07:54 PM

I am runing GWX, Feb 1940, based in Kiel is the 1st Flotilla and just upgraded to a VIIB at the cost of 2500 Renown. On my 7th Patrol as the first 5 were all in a IIA. Those five torps don't go far :haha:

I cannot upgrade anything else though out of renown!

fw66 04-19-10 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentToreno (Post 1365841)
I've come to a conclusion on this. After having a few really good patrols in a II boat, I think greed is what killed all my VII commanders. The II forcing me to be selective and careful has saved me from death very often. I get too brave with surface weapons and careless with huge torpedo supplies.

I may very well get attached to her by the time 1941 comes around. Which makes me wonder: What other kinds of goodies can be installed to a Type II later? Like radar warning, sonar coat, etc.

I've also heard of people talking highly of a II-D? I think its the D, but not sure. What advantages does that one hold over the regular II?

I agree with you there! I get sunk way more often using the bigger boats in careers. I really enjoy the Black Sea campaign in GWX using the II D, the convoys tend to be quite small anyway, so it feels ok having only 5 torpedoes! Plus the short distances are a bonus.

The II D has significantly increased range (5650 miles @8kn compared to II A's 1600 miles @ 8kn), and later on a conning tower which increases the flak capacity. I think that's about it though, I'm pretty sure it can't have a radar - but it can have the radar detectors, anti-sonar coatings, decoys etc

pickinthebanjo 04-19-10 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fw66 (Post 1365869)
I agree with you there! I get sunk way more often using the bigger boats in careers. I really enjoy the Black Sea campaign in GWX using the II D, the convoys tend to be quite small anyway, so it feels ok having only 5 torpedoes! Plus the short distances are a bonus.

The II D has significantly increased range (5650 miles @8kn compared to II A's 1600 miles @ 8kn), and later on a conning tower which increases the flak capacity. I think that's about it though, I'm pretty sure it can't have a radar - but it can have the radar detectors, anti-sonar coatings, decoys etc

Try Jimbunas XXIII, it only carries two but it's a pretty interesting sub for those that like the II

fw66 04-19-10 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pickinthebanjo (Post 1365875)
Try Jimbunas XXIII, it only carries two but it's a pretty interesting sub for those that like the II

Wow! Will check that out! :up:

pickinthebanjo 04-19-10 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fw66 (Post 1365878)
Wow! Will check that out! :up:

Yeah I just downloaded his XXI in 39' mod and I am gonna try and use the XXIII with it in the hope that they dont conflict (The XXIII replaces XXI) that way I should be able to use a XXIII in 39'

fw66 04-19-10 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pickinthebanjo (Post 1365915)
Yeah I just downloaded his XXI in 39' mod and I am gonna try and use the XXIII with it in the hope that they dont conflict (The XXIII replaces XXI) that way I should be able to use a XXIII in 39'

That sounds like a plan - also not quite as cheeky as using a XXI in 1939:DL!

Won't be able to play for a few months, but looking forward to giving it a go all the same!

Weiss Pinguin 04-19-10 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fw66 (Post 1365869)
The II D has significantly increased range (5650 miles @8kn compared to II A's 1600 miles @ 8kn), and later on a conning tower which increases the flak capacity. I think that's about it though, I'm pretty sure it can't have a radar - but it can have the radar detectors, anti-sonar coatings, decoys etc

The D is always my first upgrade when I start off with the Type II. I never stay with her long enough to get the conning tower, but the flexibility that comes with the larger fuel tanks is worth the renown.

sergei 04-20-10 06:44 AM

Plus the IID just looks cooler :DL

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Iranon 04-20-10 03:18 PM

Das OKM gibt bekannt:

Any commanders who voiced dissatisfaction with the type II will receive new boats as soon as the type XXVII is available.

Be more aggressive!

gazpode_l 04-20-10 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentToreno (Post 1364578)
As the title says, I've got the blues. And my Type II is to blame.

As a Kaleun of the 1st Flotilla, when will I be able to command a boat with a deck gun and more torpedos?

try joining the 2nd/7th(cant remember which no) that is based out of lorient - you can often be given a IXB!!!

Jimbuna 04-20-10 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gazpode_l (Post 1367058)
try joining the 2nd/7th(cant remember which no) that is based out of lorient - you can often be given a IXB!!!

2nd Flotilla

Weiss Pinguin 04-21-10 12:25 AM

Of course, if you go with the 2nd flotilla and the Type IXs, you'll probably want to bring along a small library - Some of those patrols can last AGES.

desirableroasted 04-22-10 11:29 AM

The II boat is like the first car I had in high school. No power, no guts and chicks laugh at it.

KL-alfman 04-22-10 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted (Post 1369420)
The II boat is like the first car I had in high school. No power, no guts and chicks laugh at it.


:D

funny comparison!

Jimbuna 04-22-10 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted (Post 1369420)
The II boat is like the first car I had in high school. No power, no guts and chicks laugh at it.

But with a punch that could knock your teeth out, if you weren't careful :DL

Platapus 04-22-10 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin (Post 1365401)

I just wish there was a better port to start from - Going through the Kiel Canal is a pain :doh:


That is simply no fun at all. :nope: There needs to be an option of starting at the West end of the canal. :yep:

Fader_Berg 04-23-10 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted (Post 1369420)
The II boat is like the first car I had in high school. No power, no guts and chicks laugh at it.

Type II is the true definition of power. You just can't use it. It's not made to get you laid, man. It's a full-fledged war machine.

Snestorm 04-23-10 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1370107)
That is simply no fun at all. :nope: There needs to be an option of starting at the West end of the canal. :yep:

Take the scenic route through Kattegat.

Sailor Steve 04-23-10 12:10 PM

I completely disagree. I enjoy my trips through the Canal.

Randomizer 04-23-10 01:42 PM

If you don't like the Type II in the Atlantic, try the GWX Black Sea campaign where you find your little Dugout Canoe at the top of the naval combat food chain. The Black Sea has short transit times to station, fewer aircraft, small targets that one torpedo can often kill and poorly equipped escorts. It makes a nice change from the North Sea, Western Approaches, Coastal Command and the RN.

Good Hunting.


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