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Ducimus 04-16-10 10:33 PM

Check all the readme's for any important info, if you don't find anything, take it up to the RFB thread first, since RFB is meant to be run in tandem with RSRD. If that doesnt work, check the RSRD thread.

Phantom II 04-16-10 11:08 PM

Will do. Thanks

TH0R 04-17-10 08:17 AM

A side note (I have some Steam games, but not the SH4). From my time spent on these forums - seems that turning automatic updates off for SH4 in Steam makes a whole lot of difference. Have you disabled them?

It might be the requirement to mod the game in the first place I don't know, just something I read on these forums...

Phantom II 04-17-10 08:29 AM

Hey TH0R could you please post a list of all the files in your JSGME? Just for me to use as a benchmark of a working configuration.

Thanks.

Phantom II 04-17-10 09:53 AM

So here's something curious. I uninstalled all my mods, and reinstalled RFB2.0 on its own, and the quality seems to deteriorate each time I load the game. First time, I started up a new career, no problems, I go up to the bridge in Pearl and everything renders fine, I pan the camera around for a bit, no issues, go underwater, no problems, nice underwater scene.

So then I quit back to the main menu, fired up a new career (exact same as before). The bridge view loads okay, but when I switch to free cam, if I have the camera pointing in certain angles in certain locations, the entire screen turns a bright green, whats more, when I take the camera under water, the screen goes black, and in some cases, it would just crash.

I did some extensive testing on SH4 vanilla and encountered none of these issues. :/

Hylander_1314 04-17-10 10:06 AM

Sounds like graphics rendering issues. What are your system specs?

motherboard & cpu

ammount of ram

video card(s) sli or crossfire (if applicable) and current drivers and any video enhancement software you might be using like nHancer for Nvidia cards or ATI tool for ATI cards.

OS and version.

It may help to sort out your issues.

But if it worked fine on a clean boot up then progressively gets worse, it sounds like it may be driver related or something like that. If you've got the latest drivers for your video card(s) try going back to an older version to see if it helps.

It used to drive me madd in the older days. To play EAW, and Red Baron 3D I had to use one set of drivers. If I wanted to play Rowan's Battle of Britain, I had to load a different set of drivers as the video was all messed up otherwise. Same thing for the other 2 games. It was just the way the driver versions renderred the video.

TH0R 04-17-10 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom II (Post 1363186)
Hey TH0R could you please post a list of all the files in your JSGME? Just for me to use as a benchmark of a working configuration.

Thanks.

Sure thing:

Quote:

RFB2.0
RFB_2.0_Patch_06April2010 (beta patch, not released to public)

RFB_WDM_17Jan09
RSRDC_RFB_V575
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1

RSRDC_V5xx_AircraftSoundFix
RSRDC_GreenDragons_GatorNavy
SH4_EXMSG_1 (modified RSRDC file with extra messages mod)
Nav Map Make-Over (without two files that are not compatible with RSRDC)
Torpedo Speed Setting Text Fix
Merchant Skinpack v2 RFB
Mods in Bold are the ones you should benchmark with.

Phantom II 04-17-10 10:39 AM

System Specs are as follows

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 running at stock (2.93GHz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
RAM: Kingston 4GB (I'm FAIRLY certain its DDR2 1066)
Graphics Card: Sapphire ATI Radeon 4870 X2
Graphics Drivers are the latest ones from ATI (10-3_vista64_win7_64_dd_ccc_wdm_enu)
OS: Windows Vista Business Edition (64-bit)

Not using any other enchancement software other than the Catalyst Control Center which is included with the ATI drivers.

I'll try installing some old drivers to see what it does :/

McHibbins 04-17-10 11:38 AM

RFB_WDM_17Jan09 ?

May u help me please ?

commandosolo2009 04-17-10 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom II (Post 1361758)
Can anyone explain the inconsistency I'm getting with range estimation? When I use the stadimeter in the tutorial I get the target at ~800yds, but when I ping it with sonar it gives me ~1400yds. Whats up with that? It just seems like my speed calculation is really low since the computer estimates it at ~6-7kts :/ Its really frustrating

I think light travels faster than sound, so as you perceive the 800 yds image, head to the sonar/ or ask the SO, there is latency and probably the target moved 500 yds?? maybe the SO isnt that experienced..


I dont use sonar except to estimate range when I'm submerged without periscope UP...

Besides, the stadimeter can give more accurate reading as light travels faster than sound..:haha::haha::haha::D:rock::03:

commandosolo2009 04-17-10 04:23 PM

maybe when you are using the stadimeter you dont align the image sealine with actual mast (mast = the highest pole(s)on the ship, not the flag. try some work with the stadimeter in conjunction with the sonar on static targets
( disabled vessels, homeport vicinity ships) they are usually parked and can assist you with your testing.

Diopos 04-17-10 06:29 PM

Sound travels at~1400-1500 m/sec in sea water (and varies with temperature, pressure (depth) and salinity). In the typical "engagment" ranges (less than say 4000 m) the lag between optical and accoustic observations wouldn't exceed 3 seconds.
Anyway the problem is that the game does not incorporate actual acoustics (I think). In the SH universe sound propagates instantly!!!!

commandosolo2009 is probably right

Phantom II 04-17-10 09:04 PM

So I've installed some older drivers, still having the same issues (Just running RFB2.0) and none whatsoever using vanilla SH4. Call my crazy but I'd some SOMETHING in RFB is causing it.

dezertflyr 04-17-10 09:08 PM

It may be best to just Quit to Windows and restart SH4 when starting new career(s) :hmmm:

Admiral8Q 04-17-10 10:15 PM

I have a Saphire HD 3850 graphics card and I find that if I update the drivers and Catalyst Control for it, a lot of things screw up. I even wrote on my CD case for the installation, "Do not upgrade drivers or catalyst".

Phantom II 04-17-10 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral8Q (Post 1363777)
I have a Saphire HD 3850 graphics card and I find that if I update the drivers and Catalyst Control for it, a lot of things screw up. I even wrote on my CD case for the installation, "Do not upgrade drivers or catalyst".

So what sort of drivers are you using now?

Admiral8Q 04-17-10 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom II (Post 1363792)
So what sort of drivers are you using now?

The ones that come off the CD.

commandosolo2009 04-18-10 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral8Q (Post 1363777)
I have a Saphire HD 3850 graphics card and I find that if I update the drivers and Catalyst Control for it, a lot of things screw up. I even wrote on my CD case for the installation, "Do not upgrade drivers or catalyst".


Sometimes ATi driver overwrites to the stock driver without actually replacing it. I experienced this with elder cards...

Its good to know which driver version dont cause issues with hardware or conflicts..

In my makeshift system restore DVD, I included the working, flawless version of Catalyst..

IMHO, Catalyst driver is not the best, and ATi cards generally are flawn with issues related to the drivers..

Nvidia, on the other hand, has less issues as most game devs include an optimisation tweak on the DVD...

G2B 04-18-10 01:59 AM

Did you set up SH4 in its own folder, c/whatever/ubi or did it install to default location?

Phantom II 04-18-10 04:22 AM

Its just installed in my default Steam location, which is D:\Steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter wolves of the pacific\


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