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Captain Wolfe 04-08-10 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by vonTorpitz (Post 1351522)
Haramirs escorts awareness mod improved escort AI for me, but the planes still fly harmelessley over head, at least in the early campaign. Im wondering if its because, early on in the war the R.A.F. hadn't developed effective anti sub tactics yet. But really, they would have at least tried to score a hit. They don't even shoot. However they do serve a role as reconnaissance planes.....for yet more reconnaissance planes.

Thanks I'll give this mod a try and see how it works. That's what I want, a good cat and mouse game.

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Originally Posted by keith_uk (Post 1351707)
:hmmm:I started this thread regarding the British AA guns being too accurate.

Keith.

Sorry to hijack the thread there for a bit, but I got the help I wanted so in the words of Captain Ramius: "...then you may report back to your posts."

-Captain Wolfe

Fledermaus 04-09-10 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by keith_uk (Post 1351707)
:hmmm:I started this thread regarding the British AA guns being too accurate.

Keith.

I did not even know that you could witness battles on sea anti air??!! I have never ever seen a ship firing an AA gun ever, or a sea battle.

How can I see one happening? I want to witness such battle!! What's the best way to achieve this ?

mcarlsonus 04-09-10 03:16 PM

try Historical Missions. The one including the Italian Navy task group has LOTS (!!!!) of air activity -- both friendly AND hostile!

Fledermaus 04-09-10 05:49 PM

ok I will try that but does that means that it is not so in the campaign? I would love to be guarding a convoy or such that gets attacked by an AC or so. Which I will have to sink then...

keith_uk 04-09-10 06:35 PM

I'm in the summer of 1940 in the campaign and i've seen two convoys in the English channel be attacked by JU-188's, JU-87's ME 109's and FW Condors.

Almost all the attacking planes are shot down and this is the problem i have and the reason i started this thread.

Keith.

mcarlsonus 04-09-10 06:38 PM

Out of curiosity, which Campaign and why were you in the English Channel? I'm in March '42, have avoided the Meditteranean, but have yet to have an assigned patrol area anywhere but the North Atlantic and north of Scandinavia, west of Russia proper!

keith_uk 04-10-10 10:12 AM

The standard game campaign, around the "happy times" part.

I often use the channel to get from base to my patrol area and back.

If you spot a convoy in the channel, send a contact report and try and stay at a safe distance.

Keith.

Cap.Palla 04-10-10 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by keith_uk (Post 1348961)
I sent a contact report for a convoy of British merchant ships in the English channel. A few waves of JU-188's came and bombed them, but the British merchant ships shot every one of them down in minutes.

This is way inaccurate, so i was wondering is there is a way to fix the British AA accuracy to be more realistic?

Thanks,

Keith.

OMG! If you report a convoy our planes will attack them???!!! I never seen that....wow,every day i learn something new about sh5!:rock:

Fledermaus 04-10-10 12:02 PM

I reported lots of convoys, but never seen any attack happen, neither from the air nor sea. I guess the convoy must be really close to an airbase of axis then?

keith_uk 04-10-10 12:33 PM

While in the Britsh east coast area where the wolf packs were supposed to be patroling, i've sent a good few convoy contact reports and followed the convoy for over 24 hours and nothing ever happened. So don't get your hopes up too much.

The convoys i have reported in the English channel are how far away from the German bases in France? 15 minutes if that?

The air attacks were good to watch, or at least they would have been if the British merchants didn't shoot every attacking German plane down. Also, the way aircraft maneuver in SH5, like SH4 is very unrealistic also. They dive in for a bombing run and then climb out to what would be a stall in real life, then most of the time get blown to nothing by AA fire.

The only aircraft that stand a chance in getting away without being shot down are the aircraft which drop their bombs in the first run and have no reason to hang around, like the FW Condors. The JU-188's never leave the area alive.

I've changed some settings in the CFG file for the AA fire and that helps a bit, but really it just takes longer for the German planes to be shot down, rather than not being shot down at all.

Keith.


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