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The Enigma 03-27-10 05:20 PM

@Nisgeis
No pun intended, I cannot judge it for myself.

I'm reading all kind of experiences about SH5 and I'm trying to keep
a fair mind about the game.

Having said this, I find it hard to say that all the so far discovered issue's aren't game braking.
It would definitely spoil my joy over any game when I would encounter so many 'minor' bugs.
And that would be game breaking experience for me.

My suggestion would be for a beginning SH player:
Start with SH3 and when the time is there, proceed with SH4.
From there, read as many reviews possible about SH5 and decide for yourself if you are going to try SH5.

kraznyi_oktjabr 03-27-10 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcarlsonus (Post 1336922)
I prefer SH3. SH4, especially with the U-Boat add-on, doesn't perform well on, "modest" equipment. I was using a 2.4 GHz dual-core Athlon, 4G memory, 7200 RPM HD, and a 512MB nVidia 7600GT. I've since replaced the 7600 with a 1G GTS250, but haven't tried it with anything other than the disappointing/disheartening SH5. Like, "someone else" on this thread, I'm about to reinstall my old copy of SH4. Will it work with Windows 7 64? Does anyone know if there'll be problems?

SH4 vanilla works in Win 7 64 bits. However installing process seem to randomly fail without explanation. Another attempt should fix it if not try compatibility mode Windows XP SP2.

EDIT: I have not tested it with mods yet but I don't believe that mods will break it.

alexradu89 03-27-10 05:22 PM

By the time he's finished with SH3 and SH4, SH5 will be patched, modded and up and running at Flank... I'm sorry Extreme Speed !:rotfl2::yeah:

Nisgeis 03-27-10 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Enigma (Post 1336992)
@Nisgeis
No pun intended, I cannot judge it for myself.

I'm reading all kind of experiences about SH5 and I'm trying to keep
a fair mind about the game.

Negativity spreads, that's a fact. Some people have a perverse definition of 'game breaking', for example. ZOMG The captin's hat is on at the wrong angle! Kriegsmarine officiers were required to wear their hats at 0.751 degrees, but in game it's clear that the hats are at 0.752 degrees!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??! How can UBI not kill everyone that ever worked for them and all of their families and all their friends?!?!?!???! I would kill them all if they worked for me!?!?!?!??! for this ATTROCITY! This GAME IS RUINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!??!?!? !??!?!?!?

There are of course more extreme examples over even smaller stuff, with even less control over grammar and punctuation.

Enjoyment of game = Quality of game * ( 1 - probability of throwing toys out of pram for minor issues)

To quote Brass Eye, there's no real evidence for it, but it is scientific fact.

For clarity: Yes, I know they are called 'caps'. Just like that lock I see often.

Jimbuna 03-27-10 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcarlsonus (Post 1336922)
I prefer SH3. SH4, especially with the U-Boat add-on, doesn't perform well on, "modest" equipment. I was using a 2.4 GHz dual-core Athlon, 4G memory, 7200 RPM HD, and a 512MB nVidia 7600GT. I've since replaced the 7600 with a 1G GTS250, but haven't tried it with anything other than the disappointing/disheartening SH5. Like, "someone else" on this thread, I'm about to reinstall my old copy of SH4. Will it work with Windows 7 64? Does anyone know if there'll be problems?

Have you tried any of the super mods for SH3?

IanC 03-27-10 05:46 PM

For the pacific theater I recommend SH1, although I admit I only played stock SH4, maybe a fully super modded SH4 blows the doors off SH1, I dunno.
For the Atlantic it would be SH3 GWX or Aces of the Deep.

The Enigma 03-27-10 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nisgeis (Post 1337009)
Negativity spreads, that's a fact. Some people have a perverse definition of 'game breaking', for example. ZOMG The captin's hat is on at the wrong angle! Kriegsmarine officiers were required to wear their hats at 0.751 degrees, but in game it's clear that the hats are at 0.752 degrees!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??! How can UBI not kill everyone that ever worked for them and all of their families and all their friends?!?!?!???! I would kill them all if they worked for me!?!?!?!??! for this ATTROCITY! This GAME IS RUINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!??!?!? !??!?!?!?

There are of course more extreme examples over even smaller stuff, with even less control over grammar and punctuation.

Enjoyment of game = Quality of game * ( 1 - probability of throwing toys out of pram for minor issues)

To quote Brass Eye, there's no real evidence for it, but it is scientific fact.

For clarity: Yes, I know they are called 'caps'. Just like that lock I see often.

I see what you mean, but the issues I was thinking of are more in the
direction of strange AI actions in several situations,
targeting problems, FPS issues, crew moral, lack of damage control etc.

Those would be game braking issues (to me).

Historical incorrectness would be less disturbing for me, as long as it would
be kept into proportions (no GPS or cruise missiles please).

Nisgeis 03-27-10 05:59 PM

Sorry, what's an FSP issue? I think I should know this :).

Sailor Steve 03-27-10 06:02 PM

Frames Per Second.

The Enigma 03-27-10 06:05 PM

Auch, typo. :oops:
Changed it. Thanks Steve.

[EDIT]
I wrote FSP but intended to write FPS (Frames per Second)

Sailor Steve 03-27-10 06:08 PM

Oh. That one I don't know.

longam 03-27-10 06:08 PM

Welcome Aboard :salute:

Jimbuna 03-27-10 10:02 PM

I do believe there is now a cure for 'FSP' if you contact your family doctor :DL

ReallyDedPoet 03-27-10 10:18 PM

Welcome to SUBSIM :yep::up:

Nordmann 03-27-10 10:31 PM

Welcome aboard Wokker!

As other posters have suggested, SH3 may be the place to start, you can pick it up very cheap these days. It has five years worth of mods behind it as well, which definitely helps. SH4 is also worth a look if you happen to like US Fleet Boats, and likewise has been heavily modded.

Don't believe everything you read about SH5 though, certainly it has it's fair share of problems, and is currently quite rough around the edges in places, but it's nowhere near the diabolical failure some are claiming it to be. The net requirement is a bone of contention with many, myself included, but aside from this the game is still enjoyable (in my opinion).

By the time you have yourself well acquainted with the series, SH5 will probably have received several patches, and possibly the first of the super mods. I suspect you might want to take a look at it by that time.

Other than that, enjoy the game!

ERPP8 03-27-10 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wokker (Post 1336626)
Cool stuff! Then ill check out SH3 and then SH4!
:lurk:

SHIV gets very old very quickly.
Ops monsoon fixes the german campaigns* but the airplanes see you at 500 feet and attack.
RSRDC fixes American campaigns





*So bug ridden:
Endless patrols of nowhere.
No enemy ships.
There was more but I forgot




All in all, do research into SHV,
If you're picky and think tiny bugs are too much to handle, don't get it.
Stay away from SHIV, baaaaad
I don't know about SHIII but people say it's great.

kylania 03-27-10 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ERPP8 (Post 1337315)
I don't know about SHIII but people say it's great.

SH3 + GWX is totally epic. Though, after having played SH5 the graphics are completely dated.

Nisgeis 03-28-10 04:58 AM

Ah yes, I've heard that people with new dual nVidia cards in SLI are having stuttery gameplay issues.

Snestorm 03-28-10 05:11 AM

Welcome!

IMO, SH3 is the very best of the series.
How, and if, you mod it is a matter of personal taste.

Wokker 03-28-10 05:51 AM

Found out that my buddy had SH4+Expansion. Going to borrow it from him when he gets back after his vacation.

Does the game have a good newbie tutorial?

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone!


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