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Vikinger 03-04-10 05:21 PM

I laughed at this little bug i found whit this mod.

If i stand at the bridge and order to dive via the dial the watch crew jump into the hatch and close it while iam standing on the bridge and knocking on the hatch.

Hey iam the captain, you cant dive leaving me here.

Opps they can, darn krauts, deep breath, deeeeeep breath, and down we go :)

Simply, use the dial and your captin will be left on the brigde when you dive so let him go down first :D


It was nearly a Bernard moment i got there hehe

CCIP 03-04-10 05:22 PM

Outstanding :yeah:

Now if you could also find a way to get battery/fuel/compressed air/CO2 gauges in, I think my first request would be complete. And I would owe you a subsim mug or shirt :88)

ddrgn 03-04-10 05:32 PM

Give this man his own download section!

Great work Wraith!

I am guessing your one of the Devs here patching things up :P

bert8for3 03-04-10 05:33 PM

Speechless at how fast you did this, this is awesome, thank you :up:

H.B. 03-04-10 05:39 PM

Thank you very much! But there is one problem. If you want to manually set target speed, the right dial blocks the "back"-button in the dialogue menu. So you can't confirm the order.

Highbury 03-04-10 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by H.B. (Post 1294004)
Thank you very much! But there is one problem. If you want to manually set target speed, the right dial blocks the "back"-button in the dialogue menu. So you can't confirm the order.

The placement may be off in different resolutions. The first post details how you can adjust them to your preference.

** Edit - ok the first post DID last night... maybe you can put that helpful tip back DarkWraith? :D

TheDarkWraith 03-04-10 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H.B. (Post 1294004)
Thank you very much! But there is one problem. If you want to manually set target speed, the right dial blocks the "back"-button in the dialogue menu. So you can't confirm the order.

can you post a screenshot and what screen resolution are you using?

Ducimus 03-04-10 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1293901)
I'll make another version that removes the digital readouts later tonight.

Yeah they are a little redundant now aren't they? Awesome work, thanks again!

H.B. 03-04-10 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1294012)
can you post a screenshot and what screen resolution are you using?

My resolution is 1680x1050. I use the german version. Don't know if that changes the text positions. The dial hides the "Back"-option in the dialogue, but you can click right to it, so it still works.

Where does SH5 save screenshots? I can't find them.

Galanti 03-04-10 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1293901)
use the included menu editor with the game to edit the files. I'll make another version that removes the digital readouts later tonight.

Sounds good, I'm going to try the editor after I put my little monster to bed and get rid of most of the HUD, except for the dials and the message log. I never use the actual controls for time compression (lol, who actually uses the mouse to go down from 4096x to 1x), nor do I use the icons for nav map, log and whatnot. Nor do I have any use for the ridiculous indicators at the top which drive me to fits of homocidal rage.

Vikinger 03-04-10 06:35 PM

Iam sorry to say that there is to many bugs whit this mod atm.

When i try to click on the speed settings on the normal hud there is hidden buttons that take me to stations that is made for sh4.

It seams the old interface is in the background but whitout icons, but some of the stations are clickable and that leads to 2 different views. example, It took me to the bridge while i was watching the map and the 2 screens overlapped each other so i could se both.


But good thing is. If i can click and get some of the old stuff back its possible to mod out the new hud and in whit the old one.

The hud part you changed is not just about the 3 dials, it gives us most of the old hud also, but its invisible and some parts are clickable.

kylania 03-04-10 06:35 PM

Someone had mentioned that the old interface is there but hidden, and that seems to be the case. The speed buttons and "center TAI on sub" buttons are covered up and non clickable now. I suppose the speed ones isn't that important since there are dials now, but still. :)

I guess the choice needs to be made, should this mod replace everything with SH3/4 style buttons or should it add in what's missing while leaving what's there in tact. Personally I think Compass/rudder is vital, Depth is handy, but has some bugs. Speed is completely redundant and I don't see it's usefulness as a dial personally.

At one point I was at periscope depth. I used the depth dial to raise to the surface and I did, but it didn't "register that I'd surfaced" so manning the guns didn't work. I had to use the SH5 "surface" command and after that the men manned the gun.

Galanti 03-04-10 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikinger (Post 1294120)
Iam sorry to say that there is to many bugs whit this mod atm.

When i try to click on the speed settings on the normal hud there is hidden buttons that take me to stations that is made for sh4.

It seams the old interface is in the background but whitout icons, but some of the stations are clickable and that leads to 2 different views. example, It took me to the bridge while i was watching the map and the 2 screens overlapped each other so i could se both.


But good thing is. If i can click and get some of the old stuff back its possible to mod out the new hud and in whit the old one.

The hud part you changed is not just about the 3 dials, it gives us most of the old hud also, but its invisible and some parts are clickable.


Yep, I'm seeing the same thing, but let's look at this as an opportunity - get rid of the new HUD entirely and go for the old!

FIREWALL 03-04-10 07:35 PM

Thx DW :salute: SH5 is starting to look up. :woot:

UrPeaceKeeper 03-04-10 08:09 PM

By unlocking the old interface (button is in the left corner BTW) you can adjust and move the chat box. The lack of fuel and battery guages is disturbing, VERY disturbing... I noticed that when I used this mod in combo with the Morale Mod, Engine Sounds Improved and Commands mod as well as No Damn Bubbles etc mods that my realism settings changed so best to use the new mods at the start of a fresh patrol so you can double check your patrol settings.

EDIT: I was looking through the SH4 v1.5 files and did not find a Page layout file, but I did find menu_1024_768. That may be of assistance to people looking to update the GUI... Obviously someone will need to go through the file and update or remove the unnecessary stuff and add in the new "menu" things that are SH5 specific (Crew management page etc).

EDIT 2: Silent Hunter Wolves of Pacific -> Data -> Menu -> Skins -> German -> GUI -> Layout Thats the same directory in SH5 as well with similiar but "new" files. It may be possible to add the old UI back in through those files and replacing them. I can't find a DDS viewer to see if the file is the same or not but if we can find the line in the page layout files we may be able to work on getting the old layout back...

jlederer 03-04-10 08:24 PM

THANK YOU!
 
:):DL:D

UrPeaceKeeper 03-04-10 08:40 PM

Taking a step in the right direction... Ish...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-04_193743.jpg

So I tested what happens when you copy and paste the old German Layout stuff over into SH5... thats the result... Step in the "right" direction... ish :P

TheDarkWraith 03-04-10 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrPeaceKeeper (Post 1294311)
Taking a step in the right direction... Ish...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-04_193743.jpg

So I tested what happens when you copy and paste the old German Layout stuff over into SH5... thats the result... Step in the "right" direction... ish :P

what is this old German layout stuff? Where do you find it?

UrPeaceKeeper 03-04-10 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1294320)
what is this old German layout stuff? Where do you find it?

Took it directly from my SH4 folder. Ubisoft is stupid... for MOST of the old .dds files they just changed them to an transparent color (so the game registers it as transparant). The Page layout.ini file calls up these files still but being as they are invisible they dont display. So whoever it was that was wondering if it's killing their frames, it IS. I imagine this type of mass removal of files could be done to streamline the game being as it still has the American folder for all of the .dds files but they are all transparant... Bleh... same with the German UI. If I had time to sift through the page layout .ini we could find out what lines we can remove to remove unnecessary code and we may be able to find what controllers are controlling the old UI layout stuff. It would require lots of cross referencing between the SH4 v1.5 UI file (menu_1024_768.ini) and the SH5 page layout.ini.

And who the heck hired these idiots to name their config files... NO SPACES... grr...........

I tried copying over the SH5 menu file renamed as page layout... crashed to desktop with no error... back to the drawing board.

Onkel Neal 03-04-10 08:56 PM

Great work, keep it up, I will feature this in my review :salute:


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