IM ascared.... :dead:

... not until they backpedal on their idea of product policy and a considerable price-drop. I´m not willing to spend good money on mediocre products or support such business conduct. :nope:

Although I was almost swayed by the graphics I've decided to wait a while but that could change. Bugs aren't really the issue for me; I've bought plenty of games that have been bug ridden to the point of absurdity and still enjoyed them. My issue is more to with the fact I haven't read a review by someone whose view I respect that has been anything more than lukewarm at best, and that unfortunately chimes with a gut feeling about the game that I've had for a while. There are several design decisions that I disagree with quite strongly and I'm just not willing to pony up the cash for something I don't really fancy.

Secondly, and this one just dawned on me a few days ago, I would much rather a return to the Pacific than another title about U-boats. Nothing wrong with the Atlantic. it's just that my simming heart is in the PTO just now and U-boats don't grab me the way they used to. It'll be back to Imperial waters to continue the adventures of Commander J. Erasmus Troy and the crew of the USS Greenling. They've had a few tricky situations in the past and it just wouldn't be right to abandon them just now.

What Country are you in mate?

Land of windmills and cheese, The Netherlands :up:

Mud

If you gonna buy it, then doesnt matter when you buy it. Dont waste your time i think so. Multiplayer can be fun anyway. I think im gonna buy it tomorrow if it arrives there(Turkey).

I would love to, but i cant, i know just to well that complete rejection is the only way we have to influence the producers.

I will buy it in a year for 5 Euros in the bargain bin like i did with that crapy sh4.

Citing the General,.." I predict in one year that nobody will be playing SH3 and it's forum will be closed by Neal."

You are new to this board aren't you? You must be ,..otherwise you would know that this is highly improbable.
Real subsimmers are a patient lot ,they must be,..:salute:

:har::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

Mark my words!! :|\\

NO...same as sh4 --wait n see-- 50$ with house 2 kids is not a lot but thriftyness is the best play either way cant lose either its a piece of junk and I wont buy it like sh4 or its worth picking up but will be reduced by then

Hey you lot.

I'm going to get it, if only because I feel the immersion is there. I'll be happier once TDC's and rudder controls are modded in, and a more historical interface, but then I think I realise why the developers have gone for a basic look for the existing UI. They wanted to remove the impression of you pressing things and make it seem more like you were giving orders to your crew to carry out. It's a sub-capt. sim, not a 'be all the crew' sim.

Am I happy with this decision? Can't say I am, but then I'm not cross either when a fine array of modders waits in the wings to work on this baby. I'm very pleased that they've left it so open for modification and tinkering. Eventually we'll get something very beautiful out of this, I'm sure.

Up until then I don't mind so much what icons I'm clicking or keys I'm pressing, so long as I feel like I'm there. Consensus of those who own it seems to be - on average:

Utterly ravishing to look at.
Interface a little baffling but workable.
Doesn't let you take full control of some aspects as SH3 did.
AI good to great.
Bugs are there but not game crippling and fixable.
Certain specifics are a little sloppy - no oilskins for crew (grrr!) recon planes at night...
Intentionally different from SH3/4
Manual is a load of balls, as are the instructions.

I find the last negative particularly ironic as this is supposed to be a 'break-out' game to hook the non-sim player. Way to reel them in with a completely inadequate manual and downright wrong key listings. Heigh-ho.

Overall though this looks a very promising title and I'm itching to buy it. I only want to know four things:

1: Is there a gramophone/radio and can I drop in those old war radio files? That was half the immersion for me with GWX, listening to authentic war broadcasts. It'll be doubly excellent when a new SH5Commander comes out.

2: Does your sub have the full crew of 40-odd, or just the 27 or so I see in the videos? Does the game make you think that the others are just rotated off shift but still on boat, or is history revised for a smaller crew? I don't mind if for performance reasons they had to scale it back, but I would like a feeling of people in bunks to make up numbers and stuff.

3: Do crew get injured or die and are replaced by suspiciously similarly voiced fresh faced types, like that bit where Homer leaves the bar and reappears as Guy Incognito?

4: Do crew still get thrown about and stuff?

It'd be great if anyone could answer me those. Ta.

So... do I think that this title needed more development time? Yeah, sure. But it's always been the case with pretty much everyone except games by Valve and the Holy Civilization series. (Except Colonization 2, that was guff.) I can't get mad at Ubi for their copy protection decision either, though I think it's a bad call. I'm just happy that some big publisher is supporting the sim genre, which is facing hard times.

I aim on boycotting all Ubisoft products, except simulations. Maybe one day they will wake up and realise that we PC gamers are tired of draconian measures, excepting with regards to sims, in which case they are Stringer Bell and we are their Bubbles.

I like to sink into a game like I do a book - and SH5 looks to be one that'll immerse me deeply. Can't wait frankly for Friday, even though it means beans on toast until mid-month payday.

Still not sure.
Kind of put off for a few of the usual (unmentionable) reasons plus the varying release dates.
May end up buying it tomorrow but may wait for a lot longer too.

I'd love to vote yes on this, but can't at the current moment... I'd hate to vote no, but hope that I won't have to... so I'll abstain instead. :shifty:

Haven't bought it. I will when I can, but that may not be for many moons.

Voted : No

I don't have it, and don't plan on buying it any time soon. ;)

Agreed.
The manual is, as you have said, a load of balls.
And the manual is outstanding in that it manages to be even less informative than SH 3 or 4.
I feel that a non Subsim type player would be baffled by this game, the manual doesn't even seem to cater to them.

Bought it
 

Wal-mart, the day it opened. For play on a laptop, Hate the DRM, Love the game...But it needs the help of the Subsim modders...

You need a "Still on the fence" Option.

Cant vote as i still havent decided.

YES … and it's installing now on my Win7 PC as I write this (on my Mac).

UPDATE: install went smoothly; it's also downloading an update.