Here's confirmation the DRM implementation is not same in each game.

from: http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=235596

Other than that , nothing really new. Same old PR swill we've all seen before.

Great news, potentially. Thanks for sharing. BTW I think you should make a new thread for that.

Here's hoping the game autosaves regularly, as you won't be able to save when your connection drops.

Do we know that for sure? We know the game saves locally as well as to the server. In fact the whole "save to server" thing is optional IIRC. But the question remains as to whether local saves are possible while disconnected.

For a game like SH5 where you`re patrolling for hours on end, it would need to autosave to their server at least every 5 minutes. Ridiculous.




Exactly and how can a person`s gaming experience be enjoyable under these circumstances? The whole shenanigins puts me off just thinking about it. Games should not stress a person out with such restraints.

Not buying. I don`t care how much UBI don`t care.

Games i like i buy, and l buy a lot of them!
Games i like i buy for the stability and for the manual.
Games i will try i download from warez- sites ,closed ones
And i like simulators-games,
I buy the DCS Black shark
First the ruskie version, then the English download version
Then the Dvd- version .then the manual from russia( in english)
I will buy the next one FC 2.0 and later on the A-10C
And i will buy the Silent hunter 5, And i dont like the DRM
I have pre-order it
So i download a lot of games from pirate sites that i havent buy if i have a chanse i just try them. And i think it*s a lot of people like me, we just try out the games!
I hope i dont get banned for this post now!
Sorry for my poor english, whorse than a 7 years child i know
English is int my first La....... Swedish is. :stare:

Nothing's certain and it's hard to tell what they currently have, the quote that Heretic posted was quite woolly and unclear. It says that if your AC2 connection drops, you will continue from the last checkpoint - so that either means if your connection drops, then when the game resumes from paused mode, you will be back at the last checkpoint having lost all progress since the checkpoint, even though your PC hasn't been turned off. Or it means that if you lose your net connection and quit out, you will resume from the last check-point, which makes more sense if you quit the game for the last checkpoint (autosave) to be the resume point.

For Settlers 7, it says "With Settlers, your game will resume exactly where you left off,". It sounds very strange for AC2 to kill your progress, if Settlers 7 is able to carry on regardless. But anyway, it only says resume, which could mean resume from net loss and not shutting the game down, or it could mean shutting the game down and later starting the game up again. It doesn't seem quite strange if Settlers 7 is able to save your game state anytime, that AC2 doesn't. It doesn't make a lot of sense to kill progress just for a blip in your connection.

So, that's two ways they have implemented it, so either we'll lose all progress since last save, or lose nothing at all. Hard to say. If it's the former I hope it autosaves :DL. I hope it's the latter though, where we'll not lose progress, but simply be unable to carry on. Well, I don't hope for that, but that's the lesser of two weevils.

I think I read that the save feature saves both locally and on the server, but you have to be online and verified to save. I can't remember where I saw that, if I did, as it's lost in the depths of the gawd-awful DRM thread. I haven't read the results of Neal's six minute test yet.

Ubisoft is not the only company taking this approach...Take Two is including it in Bioshock 2. I really hope it blows up in their faces big time. I've been gaming for 25 years and this new DRM crap is about as smart as playing horseshoes in a minefield.

Well, judging from his Avatar, I think he just did!:doh:

NEVER admit to anything like that on this site!:down:

Better still, don't do it!

As for the DRM, I'm more concerned with the impact on my phone bill if I buy SH5.

I'm not made of money!

Mike.

So the "benefits" are exactly the same as the standard for every single PC game that was released since the PC was invented up until around 2005.
It seems we've taken a step backward somewhere along the line. :hmmm:

Yes, it's now more hassle to own a legitimate copy than a pirate version. I don't subscribe to the Ubisoft mantra, just answering the question as to what Ubisoft say are the advantages.

You can save games online NOW. There are services to do this, or you could simply target a network directory for save games, right?

I can install SH4 on any PC that I put the disk in, but only 1 at a time.

I'm not seeing any advantage.

I would seriously NEVER consider buying a game with a DRM like this. Seriously. What's going to happen if 6-7 years from now, or even 10 years from now, I decide to crack open my Silent Hunter 5 to have another go. Will the required server and service that I need to connect to still be around or am I screwed when they change or remove their servers in the future ?

I can't tell you how many games I have that are older that have that "Click here to automaticly update" button, but can't update because the company changed or removed their servers and some of these games are only 5-6 years old.

I guess the impact would likely be less than my imagination wants to think, but has releasing bogus pirate copies (either by a dev company itself or "counterpirates") ever worked? IIRC there were a few games released fairly recently which had built in limitations if they were pirated-I guess the warez types would just circle the wagons and "everybody" would know which sites had copies that worked (and which didn't), but if I was more technically minded I'd almost be inclined to throw together some code which subtly porks gameplay in a bunch of weird ways, and try to disseminate it anywhere I could-eventually if taken to the logical extreme nobody would ever know which copies were the good ones and which ones were the bad. [Note to Neal & co. I'm just indulding in idle speculation here understand]

The best part of this is that the resulting "bugs" would immediately indicate who was using the warez, as they would be coming on a subsim message board and complaining that the sun never moved in the sky or that his torpedoes only traveled at 5 knots (and hence he could never hit anything), or something. Scarlet Letter and all that.

They already tried something similar with a game (forget which one), it would crash, somewhere half way through, if it wasn't a legal copy. What happened? Well it totally backfired on the company, people started to complain about the crashes and the game got a reputation as 'unstable'. :lol:

It's been done in more then one game, some more successful then others.

I still remember players getting laughed (and booted) off the server in the original Op Flashpoint for asking "what does FADE mean?" :har:

Smart move admitting that, right after a moderator and the owner of this site, talked about tying pirates to a pole and shooting them. :roll:

He's already been keelhauled lad.. look away.. :yep:

I'm projecting my hatred of DRM, from Ubi to dead bloated pirate bodies. I might even poke him with a stick later. :D

Come to think of it, I wouldn't like that you all think I am a badly discriminating guy :nope:

So I correct my initial post: You don't really need to shoot the pirates.

You can hang them, behead them, electrocute, poison, drown, or impale. That's it, I think nobody is discriminated any longer :smug: