I think what your experiencing is the games background music which is set to 'loop' playing at the same time as a gramaphone track. I'm at work right now and not sure which folder it resides in (either Music or Sounds) but IIRC can't you disable the music via the options panel (it's been so long ago since I've had cause to look in that area).

That is where I believe your problem lies.

:hmmm:

But would the game treat one of those files like a gramophone track when the gramophone is activated in the game? That's the only time I'm hearing it.

It does sound like something that might play during the intro movie, and I skip that so if it does play there I wouldn't recognize it as such.

Go to: C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GWX3.0\data\Sound\Music and temporarily take the music folder out (cut and paste to your worktop).

Load the game and see if that solves the problem.

If it does, you now need to go into your gramaphone folder and look for either a similar named track or identify the track in the music folder and remove it....then return the music folder.

You definitely have two trackd vying for the same air space.

Will try when I get home - I definitely want to figure out what file it is that's playing. I don't necessarily want to delete it, I just want it to play where it's supposed to play and not behave like it's in the Gram folder when it's not and crash my game by competing with files that are there.

And I can tell you, there's nothing in the Gramophone folder at all - nada -and the mystery file still played when I activated the gramophone in the game. Then and only then. I could understand if the game was trying to loop background music *as background* and not cutting it off when the gram was "ordered" to play, thus creating the conflict - but why it would treat the background music file as though it's in the Gram folder when it's not, and insert it into the game via that function - that still seems just plain bizarre to me.

Oh well. Search and destroy mission will have to wait for a couple hours at least. BUT I WILL FIND YOU, EVIL SOUND FILE!!! And when I do you will not deprive me of my toonz ever again.

Hmm...I moved the Music folder to my desktop and out of the game folder - the game crashed when I went back in and tried to load a mission. So I moved it back. Went through and clicked on all the files in it, and none of them is the mystery track that's playing on my gramophone in the game.

I think I'm going to do a second install and open the game from there and see if the mystery file plays in that one.

WATCHING SUBSIM AT WORK I SEE!!
Actually, thats a good idea.

Okay, the "mystery track" that was being played by the gramophone in the game is the file Radio.wav that is included in the stock Gram folder along with Gramophone1.mp3.

Which doesn't explain why I was still hearing it on the gramophone when it was no longer in the folder, but at least I know what it was and where it came from originally.

I remember having one or two probs with this explicit file, too. had to deal with it until the end of the patrol and then deleted it mercilessly.
made me angry.

This is what's weird. Even when I delete it from the folder, IT STILL PLAYS in the game as though it's there.

I just went in and deleted it and went back into the game, and when I click on the gramophone and shuffle through the available tracks, it plays. And it's not in the folder! WTF?

What did you do to get it off the gramophone playlist? Because in my case deleting it from the Gram folder is not working.

I guess I could put it back and see if having it there keeps the game from crashing when I try to play other tracks, and then just skip over it when it comes up in the sequence... but it still doesn't make sense to me that it plays after being deleted.



Edit: I just did a search and there is no file by that name in the game folder, and no file containing that filename in the game folder. But it does appear in the Gramophone folders of 34 subfolders of the SH3 Commander/Date directory.

All 34 instances have the same filename, but the actual wav track differs depending on date. So I'm assuming that this is designed to substitute a more date-appropriate track for the Radio.wav that comes in the game, and if that's been deleted entirely...

I wonder if I can just rename all the files to 001.wav, and then select one that I don't mind playing all the time, and put that in all the folders plus the game's Gram folder. And let that be the first song in the playlist all the time. I don't have a problem with that, but will it work? Or maybe just copy my desired 001.ogg file into the game's Gram folder plus all the relevant folders in SH3 Commander and delete all instances of the Radio.wav file.

Or is it safe to just delete all the Radio.wav files from Commander and the game folder, and leave it at that?

Well I'm off to search the SHCommander thread and see if this has been covered. Probably has, lol.

Well, to have the conversation here would help anyone else with a similar problem, who don't have to go searchin. So its good to have another one.

I did a general search plus one of the stickied thread for Commander in the Mods forum and didn't find anything specific to that file... so I PM'd JS about it.

I really hope the files I found in Commander are the source of the continuing appearance of the track in-game... I don't know where else it could be coming from, since it's been deleted from the game folder. If that is the source, then a workaround shouldn't be that difficult.

I FOUND ZE SOLUTION!
actually its a pretty bad solution.
You can uninstall your operating system and then reinstall it. Thats what I had to do after attempting a faulty patch install for SH4. Not fun!

:har:

Okay that's not really that funny. I've only done that once and it was on purpose to get a 'clean slate' after years of accumulating the usual crap on my HD. Still not fun.

Actually just heard back from JS and, yes, it IS safe to delete all the Radio.wav files from the SH3 Commander directories if you don't want them added to your gramophone playlist.

yeah, i hate system wipes. Its a pain. Thank God JS got back to you so we didn't have to do my horrible ideas.

Come to think of it that function of Commander is pretty cool if you wanted to customize playlists for various dates in the game, I think you could just put the tracks you want to play all the time in the game's Gram folder and then put additional ones in the Gram folders in Commander and it would insert them in the game for the specified date.

You'd just have to be careful with the filenames in both programs, I guess, to make sure you didn't run into the kind of conflict I was apparently having. But it is a neat idea to have date-specific radio broadcasts or even music tracks available for certain important historical dates.

:rotfl2:

Yikes I just had a mental image of me diligently researching the release date of every single track in my collection to see when it should, in theory, become available to be played as a record on a u-boat, and proceeding accordingly. Knowing me, I will do this at some point.

My goodness the awesomeness of this game and the things people have done to it and what can be done to it to make it even more awesome...

great you got it sorted!
and hadn't to go back to ryanglavin's solution.

and yes, this sim is becoming better and better by the weeks I'm dealing with it.

Well at least your sorted....crack on http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

:D

Just put the finishing touches on current playlist, here's hoping it works.

225 tracks so far, we'll see how long it takes before I manage to live long enough to hear them all. :O:

a question which I guess might fit in here:

I couldn't track any more info of my fav-song of Jimbuna's collection #1 "All over the Place".
tried wiki and youtube but wasn't successful at all ...... :hmmm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Gay

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Front-S.../dp/B002WYTT54

http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/so...theplace.shtml

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Songs-Noel-Gay/dp/B000008OWB