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mookiemookie 01-19-10 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1240212)
hmm, I think people are overdoin it... I seriously doubt the campaign would stop at 43... Cause that would just be stupid... (unless the game is story driven... which im thinking now.)

Well its what the devs said. They would know. Of course they qualified it by saying there's nothing stopping some enterprising modder from making a new campaign that goes through 1945. But the problem with that is how do you mod in things like FIDO torpedoes, schnorkels, Foxer sets and the like.

Task Force 01-19-10 05:03 PM

Hmmf... well, thats a HUGE downer... What is running through those devs minds... I mean, They have made this game seem even more like a game than it already was IMO...

Letum 01-19-10 05:04 PM

Ed: Too late.

Jimbuna 01-19-10 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1240212)
hmm, I think people are overdoin it... I seriously doubt the campaign would stop at 43... Cause that would just be stupid... (unless the game is story driven... which im thinking now.)

Well you must be the only one who still doubts the facts :DL

Task Force 01-19-10 05:07 PM

I dont keep up with this sh5 BS... Im more intrest in 3 now...:O:

I like 3... It has that nice feeling some older games have, that alot of games now days dont... (which is why I couldnt get into 4...)

codmander 01-19-10 05:11 PM

what the hell!! cant they just make SH3 Expansion pack -- build on a great sim:yeah:

GertFroebe_neu 01-19-10 05:19 PM

If Sh5 really ends 1943, I am really really disappointed! I was a Fan of SH3 but knew about it's half-bakedness. Later I enjoyed it with Mods.

I did not buy SH4 because the pacific scenario did not interest me. I am thinking about not buying SH5 too. Sad, because I was so looking forward to it. :(

I could have lived with a focus on Type VII but this... I don't know what to say...

They better delay the game and put in more boat types and make it playable until May 1945!

cheers
Marc

BulSoldier 01-19-10 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GertFroebe_neu (Post 1240243)
If Sh5 really ends 1943, I am really really disappointed! I was a Fan of SH3 but knew about it's half-bakedness. Later I enjoyed it with Mods.

I did not buy SH4 because the pacific scenario did not interest me. I am thinking about not buying SH5 too. Sad, because I was so looking forward to it. :(

I could have lived with a focus on Type VII but this... I don't know what to say...

They better delay the game and put in more boat types and make it playable until May 1945!

cheers
Marc


This term seems characteristic for the sh series.

codmander 01-19-10 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GertFroebe_neu (Post 1240243)
If Sh5 really ends 1943, I am really really disappointed! I was a Fan of SH3 but knew about it's half-bakedness. Later I enjoyed it with Mods.

I did not buy SH4 because the pacific scenario did not interest me. I am thinking about not buying SH5 too. Sad, because I was so looking forward to it. :(

I could have lived with a focus on Type VII but this... I don't know what to say...

They better delay the game and put in more boat types and make it playable until May 1945!

cheers
Marc

DITTO yes a delay add 2/9 45

Hartmann 01-19-10 05:37 PM

I canīt believe it :o

one sub type and only to 1943 ?? i suspect about one sub only but the cripple campaign is a disaster for the community.

it means no radar, upgrades, the challenge of the late years...

A mod could be impossible because the game donīt prevent the use of advances ASW weapons, sonars, radars... :nope:


I think that the creation of a new GWX must be reconsidered again using sh4 as a engine.

Jimbuna 01-19-10 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 1240269)
I canīt believe it :o

one sub type and only to 1943 ?? i suspect about one sub only but the cripple campaign is a disaster for the community.

it means no radar, upgrades, the challenge of the late years...

A mod could be impossible because the game donīt prevent the use of advances ASW weapons, sonars, radars... :nope:


I think that the creation of a new GWX must be reconsidered again using sh4 as a engine.

If it's going to be as user friendly to modders as has been suggested, I reckon there will be a few modders past and present who may well venture into the game to add a few 'improvements'.

Fingers crossed and all that.

Task Force 01-19-10 05:47 PM

I hope little kids dont start getting this game... and joining subsim from a link on SH5s site... I really dont want 10-13 year olds comeing on here saying stupid stuff like...:nope:

!!11 why are these stupid boats tossing these barrles at me!! They keep PWNING me!!!

I know I post alot... and am a pretty active member, sometimes act stupid, but in the name of SH3, atleast Im not that nerve racking...

Kapitanleutnant 01-19-10 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1240287)
I hope little kids dont start getting this game... and joining subsim from a link on SH5s site... I really dont want 10-13 year olds comeing on here saying stupid stuff like...:nope:

!!11 why are these stupid boats tossing these barrles at me!! They keep PWNING me!!!

That's a really sweeping judgement you've made there. We were all stupid kids once. I would like nothing more to see some teenagers get an interest in subsims.

Task Force 01-19-10 05:56 PM

I know... I am a teenager... Just the fact I have seen a forum go from a matureish place to a kiddy ride... In otherwords... It could turn into the general topics board... lol:rotfl2:

jdkbph 01-19-10 06:04 PM

Well, I appreciate the candor from the devs, and of course thanks to Neal for setting that up and posting...

But I think it's now quite clear that "we" were not the target audience for this game.

JD

codmander 01-19-10 06:21 PM

Dan: It's a Type VII submarine. We think that we have modeled all the significant versions, meaning Type VIIA, which we didn't have before, Type VIIB, C, and C41. We think this time we went much deeper with the Type VII than we did before. For example, the Type VIIA didn't have reloadable torpedoes in the back, so with just one shot and you'd have to come back home to reload, and this is now done in the game and we corrected other little defects with the class.

well doesnt say they left out type 2/9

Sailor Steve 01-19-10 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codmander (Post 1240321)
Dan: It's a Type VII submarine. We think that we have modeled all the significant versions, meaning Type VIIA, which we didn't have before, Type VIIB, C, and C41. We think this time we went much deeper with the Type VII than we did before. For example, the Type VIIA didn't have reloadable torpedoes in the back, so with just one shot and you'd have to come back home to reload, and this is now done in the game and we corrected other little defects with the class.

well doesnt say they left out type 2/9

Yes, it does, when taken in the context of Neal's question:
Quote:

Neal: which submarines will the player be able to take command of? Type VII , Type IX, Type II?

Dan: It's a Type VII submarine
Nothing vague about that at all.

totodog 01-19-10 06:52 PM

BOHICA...

JU_88 01-19-10 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1240283)
If it's going to be as user friendly to modders as has been suggested, I reckon there will be a few modders past and present who may well venture into the game to add a few 'improvements'.

Fingers crossed and all that.

Yeah but horrific part is that some guys with day jobs, will have to:

Write 2 years worth of campaign files from scratch.
Create & kit bash some quality nurbs models of Types 2 & 9 (+interiors)
(No imported Sh3 meshes, as they will look possitively turd like, in the SHV world.)
Then there is the inplementation of all the upgrades and god knows what other hellish logistics.
Any takers? :down:

Sure its possible, but done properly its still a massively time consuming headache (of GWX 4-like proportions....):o

The Job of the modder is to paint the window frames and fix the guttering, (maybe build a plastic conservatory if he has time)
But this is like asking him to build another two floors and install the roofing.
You normally pay someone to do that :oops:

Uber Gruber 01-19-10 08:06 PM

I think it's all brilliant! And a massive time sink....just hope more time is spent playing than mod.ding.:yep:


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