Agreed, :up:
The guy is just just saying his peice, its nothing offensive
Everything in this life get critisized and you (we) just have to deal with it.
If it was his intention to 'hurt our feelings' (which I dont think it was) then he didnt do a very good job of it :D

I found none of the replies being offensive. Its the part of ''having the post deleted'' that makes me worry. Maybe Damo exaggerated in return? Hmm, i think so and in a way i hope so.

Sure, but but I meant a post must be 'offensive' in order to justify deletion - no?
Anyways....

Ah! I'm sorry i didn't understand your reply in the first place. Well... yeah, i agree. His reply isn't sthg that will make you hit the roof. We have a deal.:up: :cool:

Each to his\her own i suppose. Would'nt do all of us like the same things


But i am loving GWX 3

This forums cant go a day without someone flaming someone or something.

You cant judge the book by the cover. Either you have the patience to read from cover to cover, or you just shut up about it.

I did play Dead Space for 5 minutes, and I uninstalled cos it wasnt my taste. But I didnt went to any forum to say the game was sh!t, cos obviously I didnt give the game enough time to prove me otherwise. And I didnt tell anyone "Dead Space is a dull game" cos I dont have enough knowledge about it just to go out spreading the news.

Either you like GWX 3.0 + SH3, or you dont. 99% of people like it, and I believe the other 1% didnt give it enough time, didnt have enough patience to go thru. And if you dont like simulations at all, you shouldnt be playing any of the Silent Hunter franchise, cos its not your beach. Guy like you only serve to influenciate UBI to turn the Silent Hunter franchise more and more a game, and less a simulation, like we have seen the last few years. SH3 was great, SH4 was a joke. And we say this, cos we care about the simulation aspect of the game more then anything, and we will use our teeth and claws to protect it. If SH5 turns out to be more arcade then SH4, the franchise will be dead for me, cos lets face it, we cant be playing SH3 for ever, we need something new.

Just keep your opinions to yourself.

:hmmm: I don't get it... I found the Pacific to be dull. First you have to travel a billion miles to get to the goods and then you get sent from one patrol zone to another, burning fuel and having nothing to shoot at. I don't complain about dullness because it's usually smashed away when you encounter your first 30+ convoy with no <8k ton ships. The same goes for GWX. In one patrol I barely make 30k tons with all my torpedoes and gun shells spent. In the next I down 100k tons in a single huge convoy. And the weather sure it's annoying, but each spring we get here 2-3 weeks with no sun whatsoever. In GWX storms pass fast if you leave the area or just stand your ground until they pass. I think having calm water in the middle of the ocean to be more annoying than zero visibility. I can shadow a slow ship while keeping it at my 270 or 90. When it stops moving I know I'm right in front of it and just wait for it to byte the fog. Plus, those stern magnetic shots never fail to amuse me :shucks:.

Again it is down to taste some like this others like that
Surely the opinions expressed in these forums are what Mods are born from
someone makes a comment about something and a new idea to fix it comes along
its true that this thread seems to be just an open attack on GWX as seen so many times before. but to say that if you don't like something just keep quiet about it wont go anywhere.
There are other version Mods out there to try on the sites. also plenty of other comments about them also.
But to say that a thread should be closed due to some people not liking the content sometimes is justified but not in this case. :hmmm:

True.

Let's face it. GWX does suck!

I have been playing mission after mission after mission and not once did the cook ask me about the soup. Not once!!!

Bah and they call GWX a realism mod. :nope:

:D

LOL :haha::haha::haha:

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Now that I think about it,
Out of courtesy and respect we do all try avoid openly slagging off any ANY modders work where possible (on Subsim)
Since gratitude is the only reward that a modder gets in return for sharing their work.

Basically if you dont like a mod, you can simply unistall & not use it, its a freebie - so in that sense, there is no real justification tell the maker(s) that you think its crap or dull or whatever... is there?
That is generally frowned upon around here, which can only be a good thing :woot:

it's interesting HMCS, you have been around since 2005. a simple querry as to your problem and what you need/like would have sufficed. there are many mods that change things you dont like or improve things you do: dont need a brick to open the window.

We all acknowledge that the statement "GWX is Boring" is a very stupid thing to say.
after all no mod can be classed as Crap as they offer you a choice of how you want to play the game its down to the individual to mix and match as they please.
I say hats off to all the Supermods and to the people involved in producing them and releasing them for us to enjoy. :up:

I second that.

Oh, so exactly what, then, have people like me, Ducimus, Lurker, et al, been doing for the past year and more?

I wonder what you think is the point of posting here just to throw wood on the fire.
has this discussion yet again got to turn into a Us verses Them thread, I.E. GWX verses SH4.
I am quite sure that most of the members here are tired of reading the squabbles about this surely the matter had come to a nice end cant it just be left like that.

:up:

It seems that most replies (my own included) are to the "Boring, boring dull dull dull" comment, as well as the "Yawner" in the title. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and we've actually argued about which is better (or more real, or prettier) since SH4 was released.

It is indeed a problem with SH3 itself. Folks have been complaining about it since day one, and so far none of the attempted fixes have truly solved the problem. It's something we live with because we like the other aspects so much.

And overall again I agree. I keep defending SH4 to those who crticize it, and I play both SH3 with GWX and SH4 UBM with OpsMonsun. I love both, and I complain about both, and in both cases my complaints are toward the basic game, not the mod. I love the continuing radio messages in GWX, but then I never go above 256x time compression, so they still seem few and far between to me; and I wish SH4 had them. I love that the weather works better in SH4, but when a storm comes it never feels quite as real to me. I don't know why that is, but it's my perception.

LukeFF's comment is more than valid. To some of us SH4 does seem more 'gamey', but the mods so far have gone a long way toward fixing that. But that was said about SH3 when compared to SH2, and I'm guessing that it's less what the game is but how it changes what we're used to.

Bottom line - SH2 didn't have a dynamic campaign, SH3 is boring, and SH4 is just plain crap.

I guess I'll go back to playing...wait a minute, there isn't anything else I want to play.:sunny:

I'd just like to say that my comment about the thread being deleted was wrong. Of course everybody should be allowed to express their opinion.

What I should have said was that the thread should be 'disregarded' as it was made by somebody who doesn't see beyond the surface and seems unwilling to try. Instant gratification is NOT what GWX is about but patience is a virtue and that patience will and is rewarded in so many different ways. The experience is never the same for individual people, how many people have never seen a Battleship, let alone sink one? It's that uncertainty that makes the experience unique for all of us and I'm sorry that HMCS has had a bad first outing, but he's looking for the quick fix which won't happen.

I worried that newcomers to the game and GWX would see his post and be turned off of GWX, hence my deletion comment. I will happily retract that statement but the remainder of my post will stand.

Besides, if those new guys read the whole thread they'll learn what HMCS hasn't so maybe he inadvertantly did GWX a great service.......

:88)

@ LukeFF, Id imagine that GR was refering to Stock SH4, I doubt he intended to discredit the immense amount of work you guys have done for the sim. ;)

A thread with a title like this is always bound to inflame some people - it's just really encouraging to see that people have explained why they like GWX rather than slagging people down, which happens all too often on SS.

Bravo to everyone who has posted. Loads of informative comments and the thread was kept as a debate on opposing views rather than an excuse to throw mud. :yeah: