(enters thread... walks around... smells popcorn....jumps on couch next to Mr. Buna... barks at squirrel in window....leaves thread):woot:

Of late? It's always been that way in one form or another. The difference is most people on subsim are intelligent, so when they go at each others throats, it's not always so blatantly obvious.

Hey now, i didn't start crap (at least not usually ), i just called it out in frank terms when i saw it. Where others would get crafty and subtle, i'd have the attitude of, "ok, let's cut the politically correct BS and say what we're really thinking here." It doesn't win me any browny points with anybody, but at least you always know where i stand. I think people worry about their forum reps too much.

There is a secret to rising above all that. It's simple. Just don't care. This sort of drama is the norm. It came up before, it will come up again, and when you have strong/creative minds bouncing around in one place, probably unavoidable. People are going to do what they're going to do, they are how they are, and nothing will ever change that. In the end, this is just a video game, it's not worth getting all bent out of shape over (took me awhile to realize that), and this isn't the end of the silent hunter community, this is business as usual.

Yep it's all egos at dawn.

Been guilty of it myself in my modelling days (3D models that is).
You get over it pretty quickly though when you realise you aren't the first or the last or the best.

Saying that SCX, DWX or whatever for the SCS stuff hasn't come anywhere close to SH levels of dummy spitting and tantrums.

Ooh! I remember that one too! That was a show.

EDIT: Note that at the time of this edit there are currently 1021 people viewing the forums. So much for the demise of SubSim.

It's all the "old guard" here. Myself included. Being honest, most of the drama (in whatever form) in silent hunter begins with all the old guard modders from the early days of SH3. Everyone has a history, an ego of one form or another, and long memories; again, myself included. If all the old guard disappeared, 90% of the drama probably would too. Sometimes i wonder what this place would be like, if all of us disappeared entirely.

Shut up you big cry baby. If I didn't post that private message in public, those NoCD files would not be public. "The workaround" you speak of was not good enough for me, and was not the way the Ubisoft German forums were doing it. She wanted me to sneak the files via PM, while other forums could publicly do it. When I posted that private conversation, I did it to humiliate her in front of everyone to show how helpless she actually was. And if you would take a look elsewhere, you'll discover that I gave Jimbuna some of the credit.

I did this for those who already owned a copy of SH3 before the newer versions came out with the files already included. I did this for the entire community, not just members of the Ubi Forums.

This whining you are always doing is one of the reasons I don't want you on my forum. That's all you ever do is cry about stuff, which is what got you suspended from Subsim a few years ago when you went under the name Phoenix1957. The others supported me because I was fighting for something that is needed, and how ms-kleaneasy was doing nothing about it. So I put my moderator status in jeopardy to prove that point. Guess what Steve, mission accomplished!!!!!!!

So go back to Carotio's site and leave me the F**k alone, I'm getting really sick of you and your crying like a baby all the time. Can't you tell everything you say is always Me, Me, Me. SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, I was waiting for this thread to head south.

Keep the beef in PMs between the two of you. GT can be tricky enough to mod without Silent Hunter issues spilling in here too.

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