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XabbaRus 10-14-09 07:31 AM

Have to say I agree with Aramike et al.

I don't like Fox news but no administration can outwardly attack a particular news outlet because said news outlet has been critical of them, regardless whether it was spiteful or not.

You get into a situation as in Russia....

SteamWake 10-19-09 11:16 AM

This aint going away.

Quote:

The White House escalated its offensive against Fox News on Sunday by urging other news organizations to stop "following Fox" and instead join the administration's attempt to marginalize the channel.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ws-1925819282/

Marginilize the channel? Havent the libs been doing that for years already?

August 10-19-09 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1191604)
This aint going away.



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ws-1925819282/

Marginilize the channel? Havent the libs been doing that for years already?

They've been trying, but all they end up doing is giving Fox free advertising.

Zachstar 10-19-09 01:42 PM

While it needed to be said. The only thing the white house did was to help give that crap network more attention and make it a martyr.

Next day Glen Beck compares fox news to jews in the camps during the holocaust. Lovely network that fox news... Not!


And no there is absolutely zero chance of someday being a "ban" on Fox. Far as I am aware they semi follow FCC guidelines and laws.

The white house is just saying to sane people that Fox news has proven how far it is from "Fair and Balanced" for almost a decade now.

Zachstar 10-19-09 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aramike (Post 1188786)
REALLY?

How you ever watched MSNBC?

The brass at Fox News had it right when they said that the White House is incapable of distinguishing between news and commentary...

...either that, or they have a problem with commentary critical of them while being quite alright with the lineup of commentary shows supporting them, as is on MSNBC. Yet again its just more propaganda from this endlessly campaigning White House - and even you are buying into it, lock, stock, and barrel, without being fully informed of the issue on a first-hand basis.

If you are referring to the major political commentary shows "Countdown" "Rachel Maddow" Yes those shows are pretty far left. The general news is more or less like CNNs or ABCs These shows were created to counter shows like Hannity and O'Reilly (Tho he now seems more central than far right these days likely reason they got Beck in)

The issue with Fox news is there is less time on there being objective and neutral than any other network I have seen in this nation. When the news reels roll oftentimes it seems they are just trying to make an issue a political issue to emflame the viewers. Do other networks do the same? Sometimes during election season they become rats but with fox its like a 24 hour thing.

That is my opinion tho many people share such. The white house is free to say Fox News sucks BTW. They have no power to alter their programming but they have the right to say what they think of it.

mookiemookie 10-19-09 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 1191650)
They've been trying, but all they end up doing is giving Fox free advertising.

Pretty much. Now Fox News can use the "poor persecuted underdog...telling you the TRUTH that THEY don't want you to hear!" card and galvanize their hardcore fans.

They should have just left it alone.

SteamWake 10-19-09 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1191700)
They should have just left it alone.

I have to agree, however evidently the White House believes they cannot afford to. :hmmm:

geetrue 10-19-09 02:08 PM

The real problem lies in the fact that Fox News is pissing off President Obama so much that it has come to this point in time.

Any polictical psychologist can see this frustration is coming from a common mental disorder that tends to blame someone else for your problems.

But to use your influence to shut down an entire news agency sounds anti-american to me, like an old black and white citzens cane movie or something.

Has anyone noticed Senator Kerry jumping into the news more often now that Mrs Clinton has firmly said she is not seeking the job of the president of the United States?

Kerry is acting like he might have another chance if Obama slips in the ratings game (whatever that is)

Zachstar 10-19-09 02:11 PM

He has no influence to "Shut Down" a news agency. Nobody does. He pointed out that fox news is crap. The Right wing will still use it as their primary source of subsistence. Little has changed.

SteamWake 10-19-09 02:14 PM

No influence eh?

Quote:

White House boasts: We 'control' news media

Communications chief offers shocking confession to foreign government
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113347

Zachstar 10-19-09 02:23 PM

If they had influence they would have had beck canned long ago now common folks!

No need to go Alex Jones on this. Its not a conspiracy its an opinion.

mookiemookie 10-19-09 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1191716)

This is why WND is as laughable as it is. They cannot understand the difference between the Obama campaign controlling their message (which is clearly what was said) and the White House controlling the media. Obama wasn't even in the White House in the timeframe in question, so how can it be a case of the White House controlling the media? It's deliberate spin to serve WND's agenda.

Tribesman 10-19-09 02:25 PM

Quote:

White House boasts: We 'control' news media
Wow they control the media by ....errrr...controlling what they themselves say to the media.:rotfl2:

Sailor Steve 10-19-09 05:34 PM

"White House says..."

"White House boasts..."

"White house attempts to control..."




Do you ever wonder if the White House gets a little tired of taking the blame for whatever its current occupants say or do? Has anyone ever asked the White House what its feelings are on this subject?

"White House says 'Stop saying I said this or that! I never said that! I don't even care! Keep my lawn trimmed and I'm happy.'"

Platapus 10-19-09 05:44 PM

I do think it was inappropriate of the administration to make such comments about any news media. The Executive Administration should be above such matters. If they did not like Fox News, then simply ignore them.

CaptainHaplo 10-19-09 05:46 PM

If the white house wants to go head to head with fox - its their loss. No-win situations exist, but creating one yourself and then stepping into it isn't real smart.

As for how they feel? Well, maybe if they decided to stay within the role of the Executive Branch instead of what they (and fairly speaking, just about every administratinon in the last 150+ years) are choosing to do, they wouldn't have to worry about it. But stepping outside the guidelines in power grabs are nothing new, both political parties do it when they are in power, so why should this group be any different?

SteamWake 10-23-09 10:21 AM

Of course there is no effort to manipulate the media that would be just unthinkable.

Quote:

White House Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

The Obama administration on Thursday tried to make "pay czar" Kenneth Feinberg available for interviews to every member of the White House pool except Fox News. But the Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV networks decided that none of their reporters would interview Feinberg unless Fox News was included.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...zar-interview/

The White House 10-23-09 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1191815)
Do you ever wonder if the White House gets a little tired of taking the blame for whatever its current occupants say or do? Has anyone ever asked the White House what its feelings are on this subject?

"White House says 'Stop saying I said this or that! I never said that! I don't even care! Keep my lawn trimmed and I'm happy.'"

:cry: You're so right.

SS107.9MHz 10-23-09 03:59 PM

It was a huge mistake of the administration...
Bt I have yet to hear anyone of the current White House administration stating that !"Fox News are now considered enemies" or anything like that... It's more of a media exageration than anything, bu here go my 2 cents just about the Fox "News"...

Portugal has it's shares of media manipulation/exaggeration and such downfalls... But having seen that so called News Channel made me gag... More than 5 minutes seeing Fox News had me almost throwing my lunch to the otherside of the room... I've never seen such complete dispise of news reporting responsabilities... I felt disgusted and ashamed that a TV channel can manipulate so many people as they seem to be able to, by professing their ideals in a shallow and warped way, to their own gain :nope:

August 10-23-09 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS107.9MHz (Post 1193692)
It was a huge mistake of the administration...
Bt I have yet to hear anyone of the current White House administration stating that !"Fox News are now considered enemies" or anything like that... It's more of a media exageration than anything, bu here go my 2 cents just about the Fox "News"...

Portugal has it's shares of media manipulation/exaggeration and such downfalls... But having seen that so called News Channel made me gag... More than 5 minutes seeing Fox News had me almost throwing my lunch to the otherside of the room... I've never seen such complete dispise of news reporting responsabilities... I felt disgusted and ashamed that a TV channel can manipulate so many people as they seem to be able to, by professing their ideals in a shallow and warped way, to their own gain :nope:

So you watched Fox for all of 5 minutes and you figure that's enough to form an intelligent opinion?


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