Well I can run games like Crysis, Far Cry 2, Trainz 2006, SOF3, Turok, BlackSite, Ship sim 2008, etc, with no problems, though some not recently, maybe one of my ram sticks has died, I did have all the settings in the game set to max, maybe someone with OM can try the nav training school, both reboots happened here, got to about way point 6 the second time.:hmmm:

Don't worry mate. SH4 gives me soft reboots too. And it seems to be the only game that does it too. I don't know why.

Quad core 2.8
Vista 64 home premium
8GB Kingston RAM 1066
1 gig NVidia

I vaguely remember having trouble with the training school after installing mods. So i never did the training after that . I just went straight to the campaign .

Even the career crashes. Usually mid patrol.:wah:

Yeh I wouldn't mind if it just CTD but rebooting is a no no on my machine, I have problem with the reset line, not sure if it is motherboard or power supply, but when I start my machine I have to hold the reset button down when or it just hangs and often causes HDD errors, once it boots all is ok (holding reset down for a second always works, 100%), been like this for several months, so a game rebooting sucks big time!!!:damn:

SH3 is a better Sim than SH4
 

:down:After all the superficials are dropped; SH4 is an inferior quality Sim to SH3! The graphics are nice? No, the water is verging on ludicrous – ballooning tissue paper flapping around the screen. The music is – just – well I turn it off. The main gripe I have is that the torpedo “spills” out of the tubes – and does not eject with a certain – accuracy that I see in SH3.

I do find the damage on the ships great; but they’re not that accurate. The only other thing I like is the Milton Poem at the start…nice touch. SH3 is like XP, and SH4 is like Vista….I hope SH5 is like Win7.

Actually , i think they said we will recognise the file structure from sh3/4 . But its a new game .

SH5 is built on SH4 and so what?
Was SH4 a crap game? with a crap engine? No it was very good - just rushed...
Im glad SHV its built on SH4, otherwise building the new engine would take up so much time, there would be no time for all the other fancy things we keep begging them for.
The Devs were never gonna be given the to time and budget to build a new game engine anyway. And why the hell would they want to when (with a few improvements) the current one is perfectly good.

Same engine - but 2 completey different games.
Judge SHV on its own merrit and stop all this worrying, since 'worrying' isnt going to change anything anyway.

Im sick of seeing the word 'Worrying' on this forum almost as much as im sick of seeing the word 'Soup'
Neal should censor both of them.

Didn't they say it was a completely new engine with completely new code?

The soup is worrying me now .

yes they did

the only thing thats the same is the subject matter (u-boats)

I don't know what all the worrying is about. I'm guessing 9 out of 10 people who post in this forum is going to end up buying the game regardless.
Besides that, its not like you really have a choice if you want a more modern WW2 submarine sim.

:yep:

I hate shiv. The ships just look like cardboard made.

With sh3 i get the real feeling that i am at sea. And the ships
are marvelous.

I hope sh5 will give me the same feeling as sh3 does.

Eh? The ships in SHIV look alot better than those in SH3, partly because they have more detailed 3d / higher poly count and also because they have Lightmaps.
If anything SH3s ships look like boxy cardboard by todays standards
:rotfl2:

SH3 is far better than SH4 in almost all aspects IMO, I have tried em both, with many attempts to like SH4 but SH3 is a clear winner, no offense JU_88, as I said IMO.:yep:

I go with JU 88 on this one.

i'm with java's revenge - sh3 feels much better game and captures the feeling of being at much sea more.

No offence taken -its a mixed bag TBH :O:

I do agree that in terms of the enviroment, something about SH3s Visuals look cleaner and more convincing than an unmodded SHIV (which seems a bit gloomy and oppressive somehow.) Also the draw distance for all objects and the terrain was a big let down in SH4.

But, for the visuals on the actual Units, SHIV wins hands down IMHO, if you compare the T3 tanker from SH3 to the one form SH4, i think you'll agree there is no contest :DL

Overall i'd say that while Sh3 is clearly showing its age, SH4 is not.

I will give both their own merits. SH3 does give the gloomy feeling of the cold winter Atlantic...modded of course. SH4 on its merit after some modding does provide a bright blue Pacific we see in pictures. One has to admit the clear water and seeing the ships hull beneath the water is quite cool. Know what, someone made a mod of SH3 colors for SH4. It was a very cool mod and brought the SH3 gloomy Atlantic feeling to SH4 :03: