i sleep with one eye open :|\\

They actually have mods for that. I believe one is built into RFB. I think Webster has one for stock. You may enjoy Websters Game Fix Only "GFO"
mod. It's a large mod with hundreds of fixes, but doesn't change the function of stock play.

In time you'll want mods...this game would have died long ago in not for the mod's.

S-Boats(Pig boats),you just got to love them. Diesel smell, sweat and little place to move around.

oh and S-41 is mine.:D

Germany has the Schnell-Boats. America has the Smell-Boats. :D

Everyone of the Boats is a "Pig Boat"......all the way down to Balao Class.........Even when we went on liberty in civilian clothes, the girls all knew from where we came.........."Silver Dolphins on her chest. She's been laid by Americas best.....One hundred men she's had today, but only four the normal way". (sung to the Ballad "Green Beret")

Morpheous/S-18
 

Tigers actually sleep with one eye open. Scary stuff!

CatainMattj doesn't have any strong ooooppppiioioonnnsss (heh), deos he? :stare: He is in with the Big Boys and just doesn't know it. Why, my gorgeous S-18 is as classy as a Pierce Arrow, sleek as a Bugatii, and hotter than ....(let me see....) Betty Grable.

AAAAANNNNDDDDD (heh, heh) he is thinks that manual targeting is a waste, claiming in a post in Captain Scurvy's AoB thread that it is more accurate to rely on eyeballing the target's AoB. :nope: Cupping my mouth with my right hand and whipering, "Horsehit," I point out that I have on multiple occasions sunk three ships on the same or parallel courses in a single attack run using the Easy AoB mod. All successful captains know that plotting a destroyer's course is almost impossible when it is protecting other ships or seeking a sub, as a result of its frequent course and speed changes. A captain has to rely on a lucky shot to hit one, or eyeball the AoB, quickly enter it on TGT tool, and fire before it changes course.

AAAANNNNDDDD DDDOOOONNN'TTTT YYYOOOUUU FFFOOORRRGGGEEETTT IIITTT

what? yes a ddchanges course frequently and speed. that why you look at the attack map and turn your boat till the torpedo course line matches with what YOU think hes going to change course. and you cant do it when hes not changing course its ALWAys changing course so you cant really fire when hes "not" changing course. as said by ummm i cant remember his name but he made the manual targeting tutorial post "AoB is not that important. You dont have to get it Completely accurate you can be off a few degrees and it will still hit. thats how i do spread angle for single torps. i use Auto tagerting MOST of the time but not always and sometimes when im sneaking into an enemy port i use my atack map and i plot a spread angle for a single torp instead of it having it go directly into the middle i have it go a little bit away from the bow but not directly in the middle. besides, if your not Extremely desperate you could try the point and shoot manual targeting where you set everything to zero so the torpedo shoots straight ahead aim turn your boat till you think the wtorpedoes going to hit.

*sigh* even in those days the oneway was so popular? :har:

For Captain MattJ, yes when firing from 200 meters i wouldn't bother about a few degrees also...

Try hit a medium target from 4-5 kilometers, one degree can be it then...

cheers

If you don't want the challenge, use something easier...S-boats and Type II's are subs you use when you're sinking too much tonnage and need the extra handicap. Not there yet? Use a Balao.

If I may make a comparison to the old X-Wing or TIE Fighter games...anyone can do decently in an X-wing or TIE Advanced. If you win in an A-wing or TIE Fighter, you've done something impressive....most impressive. :D

(Sorry to cross-reference Star Wars, but some of you may know what I'm talking about.)

Morpheus
 

I have hit moving targets at approximately 4,500 yds. using the easy AoB mod, firing when they were +/- 4,500 yds. out. Stationary targets at +6,000 yds. Eyeballing at those distance is not possible. Using Easy AoB at least give you the opportunity to see if your torpedo angle intersects the target, except in RFB where the torpedo angle and interception point are not modded in to it with enough clarity.

Basically early in the war when they were the best they had for the most part till the later boats were more common.

By the way this thread prompted me to start a new carrier in an S boat.... Wow they had good range !

don't be confused
 

I started using the Easy AoB mod when I captained a Gato. I have not used it with an S boat. The Easy AoB mod is, my opinion, a masterpiece. When targets are on the same or similar course, you can whack several of them in one attack run. I have gotten 3 in one run on two occasions, but never 4. Assuming 8 torpedoes to sink 4 (or damage them so that you can sink them with the deck gun), you have to have a hot crew in both the fore and aft torpedoe compartments, and be, as Clint Eastwood said after he shot five men in a bar in the Unforgiven, "lucky in the order."

Picture the scene - me a new skipper walking down the dock with a grizzled seasoned Chief of the Boat

Skip: Awww, lookit that toy boat tied up there as if some kid is playing at being a sailor. Isn't that sweet. Anyway COB, where's my sub?
COB: Errrm, that is your boat sir.
Skip: Say what now?

Skip: Hey COB. Looks like some SOB has left some 9mm in the tubes. Clear it out will ya so we can load up some torpedoes
COB: Errm, they are the torpedoes sir.
Skip: Say what now?

Skip: OK COB, looks like a large Jap freighter, doing about 12 knots on a parallel course to us. Ring up the flank bell COB. We'll overhaul this joker in an hour or two.
COB: Errrm, we are at flank sir. And if we continue at this speed the toilet is gonna explode sir!
Skip: Say what now?

Skip: Well we're at 250ft. I think the japs have got our depth. Rig planes for deep dive.
COB: It don't get any deeper sir. Jeez sir, WTF don't you get about this boat?
Skip: Say what now?

Man I love those sugar boats. You can take my S-Boat away from me when you prise it from my cold dead fingers!

I tried once to take a S-boat through the war and actually made it to late 43. I wonder if the game doe's see it as a smaller stealthier boat?

I do like having my sterns. I've read a study, maybe the same one that many Skippers thought the sterns worthless. Sort of shocking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...lass_submarine


I read in a book and wika also states that they did convert some to launch float planes...gave it up, but the japs later had the same idea and used it to some effect.

Most of the S-boats were used for supply missions once we caught up fleetboat production

The better Skippers employed them well. O'Kane said somewhere that it was bad to have a single ended boat. Having stern tubes gave you options if faced with a last second target radical course change.....

stern tubes pown escorts who are riding you.

Agreed... instead of rotating 360 on a radical course change... you can work inside a 180 degree range with stern tubes.

Technology cannot fix stupid, fellow skipper. Everything the lad posts is either mis-spelled, caustic, or inane.

give the kid a break
 

Mattj - let's give him a break for awhile. He is young, and has not worked on his spelling or grammar. That stuff is not easy. As for being brash, he is that. He probably needs his butt kicked, but it ain't going to happen here. We are not in the real Navy.

Using aft torpedoes on stationary destroyers is something I have done, and on destroyers on a course that can be plotted. If not one of those, it is by coincidence or luck.