A simple Aaaaarrrggghhh from my side bill be understood by the rest of humanity. :sunny:

Tme to hijack this thread.

It would be uber awesome if SH5 had PhysX support for fluid simulation.

You've got to many Tubbys here that didn't understand Phys-ED :har:....

To grasp PhysX. :06: :haha:

You know the sad part is that crappy SF didn't even work... People were able to get around it far to easily (and it made legit users machines not work at all). But then again look at Rockstar Ent and GTA4 - they spent $250,000 just developing anti-piracy software for GTA4 and it was cracked within 24 hours. So this kind of anti-piracy software is useless... the best thing Ubi could do is exactly what they did with SH4... make a bug so that when the game recognizes it's been run via a cracked exe file, then something in the game doesn't work right. I'll bet you guys didn't realize that SH4 is on the bottom of "most frequently pirated" software lists... :hmmm:

I dont want star force,i am glad that I dont have to put my
disc in the computer every time I want to play.I paid for my copy of SH4 and I think that people who really like SH
will buy it no matter if there is a pirated copy of a game.
We should buy it if we want to see new SH in the future.And also you get a cd key for MP and the manual(not very important but still):D Maybe the best soultion is
to remove star force later, like they did with sh4.It is critical to protect the product in first months of sale,but after that
the protection will be removed by hackers one way or another.It doesnt matter if there is or there isnt protection,fair people who love SH will pay for it!

My old Jedi-Master keeps sayin' : "Starforce is not your ally!:nope: "

As bad as starforce used to be (and it was awful), I think they've changed their scheme a lot since then and starforce isn't the awful creature it once was.

It isn't, but the bad rep stuck. Better to avoid it. :yep:

I say online activation on install, with the option to acquire activation code via e-mail, snail mail or phone for people who don't have internet.

Please, no limited install stuff. I don't want to contact customer support to unlock my game because I had to reïnstall Win at some point. :nope:

My answer was based on the knowlegde that some people will take this tread seriously,and they did,thereby starting the discussion and failing to get the joke and eventually the tread will be closed,stand-off between the fanboys/girls and the pirates,people in the brig or worse...

guess i was just panicking:rotfl:

Ah,i been a moderator for too long on other forums,its like post traumatic topic disorder or something...:wah:

Most applications use this and it doesnt work against piracy.

I say, spend the money to something else. A normal CD check is all they should invest money to. Every known, commonly used CP is cracked, so what's the point of having one?

Starforce is probably the worst thing invented since democracy...

umm...wow. somebody a little partial to their constitutional monarchy?

Yes Comrade:salute:

I agree, but the thing is: DRM isn't going anywhere. All we can do is whine to keep it reasonable. ;)

True that. Which is exactly what I dont understand, why they keep putting DRM's to the games when they know that they dont work? Do they really think that it would lessen piracy because not everyone would have the know-how to bypass the DRMs and so there'd be only the big scene groups releasing cracked versions? I do hope they are wiser than that or in the future we will have someone standing next to us, watching and making sure we use a legit copy.

If someone comes up with a no CD "patch" (rofl), I don't care about Starforce. I bought SH3 at its release. As it wouldn't run without a crack, I had no moral qualms whatsoever to circumvent the copy protection. If that's the only way I can play my legitimately owned and dearly paid for copy, so be it.
And welcome aboard :DL

A thing to note is that Copy Protection evolved into Digital Rights Management: At first CP was only to prevent illegal copies from being made. Nowadays DRM also is still intended to prevent day 1 illegal copies, but it seems to be more targeted at preventing 2nd-hand sales; think of Steam, where this is completely impossible since the game is tied to your account, and the limited number of installs/activations with many systems that tie a game to your hardware config.

Also, piracy is a hassle, since it requires more effort to get a game working and you're always lagging behind on updates, waiting for an updated crack to be released. I think they're simply trying to maintain that situation to persuade at least some people to avoid the hassle by obtaining a legal copy.

Some interesting reading: http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_091a.html
Other side of the story. Though I can't say I really agree with it, it's reasonable enough: http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_091a.html

Steam has been cracked ages ago. :yep:

As for the updates, you're right there. Only popular games get the attention in piraqcy when it comes to updates.

Didnt read your linked thingies yet, abit tipsy so I dont have the attention span for it right now. :doh:

I won't force you, I think you have a reasonable stance on this anyway; Most people don't bother asking for an explanation but just bash it.

Thing about Steam is you can't sell a game if you get tired of it, something you can do with a boxed game (as long as the DRM isn't overly restrictive). Apart from hindering piracy, that's what DRM is all about.

True true. :yep: