I know what you think they mean but since I have heard them used by professionals to describe real world situations it's my definition we'll be going by.

So you do know the definition of the phrases.

Ah so someone is wrong because you want to only use your own definitions of the phrases .

OK the real world, what stages of the Russian occupation of Afghanistan would you label with your personal definitions of the three terms?
Or you could do the same with French operations in Vietnam .

Perhaps if you do both examples then the world can see what your definition is and try and match it with the usual definition.

I'd rather the Russians have air supremacy then the lolwaffles.:rotfl:

You may have need of this


http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/507...lsprayxj41.jpg

Is that the ad hominen version in the can, recomended for use by those who are unable to debate.

If you don't understand just think for a moment . Can you think of any rational examination of either of the campaigns I mentioned in response to augusts claim that would remotely support his claim?

Nope, that's the ad nauseam version in the can. The type used for those who are repetitive in their attempts to be subjective and dismissive of other peoples viewpoints on numerous threads.

Personally, I enjoy a good debate.....but only when mutual respect is a fundamentally accepted part of the process.