Originally Posted by StarLion45 (Post 1148437)

there you ' re wrong Contact . If you die , and decide that you want to start the patrol you died in , you must never start SH3Cmdr right away , it crashing to desktop at ONCE . YOU MUST START IN THE GWX GAME , OR STOCK sh3 :yep:

Originally Posted by Contact (Post 1149360)

If you say Rez fix is 100% stable then could it be somewhere incompatible with OLCG2 ? Guess no one knows that.. :doh:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1149402)

I can't comment on OLCG2 because I don't use it. I've installed it an tried it but prefer not to use manual targeting because I'm a lazy Kaleun.

Looking at your list of mods there are possibly 3 or 4 potential candidates for causing CTD's.

Originally Posted by Hanzberger (Post 1149440)

This I did not know or missed but are we suppose to delete the folder SH3 from "my documents"?????

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1149444)

Before installing GWX you must remove the SH3 Folder from My Documents.

Originally Posted by Melonfish (Post 1149494)

Actually i didn't do this and i've only ever had one CTD and that was a duff save file.
otherwise no issues.

Originally Posted by JScones (Post 1149391)

:hmmm: I don't even understand what you are trying to articulate, but it sounds to me that you are doing something screwy.

I mean, if you die, SH3Cmdr will no longer let you load the dead career. Thus for you to use it, you must be interfering manually. As soon as you interfere manually, and THIS INCLUDES REVERTING TO A PREVIOUS SAVE POINT IN ANY CAREER, you potentially break SH3, which in turn breaks SH3Cmdr.

But I'm sure you would know this, having no doubt read the FAQ in the SH3Cmdr User Guide. ;)

Unfortunately SH3Cmdr usually ends up blamed for CTDs because of:
a) some interesting user belief that SH3 is perfectly coded thus couldn't be at fault
b) some interesting user belief that it couldn't possibly be anything they've done (like add conflicting mods, incorrectly edit files etc etc)
c) some interesting user belief that searching forums for possible answers before ranting is a waste of time, you know, like finding instances of similar problems occurring *before* SH3Cmdr and mods like GWX even existed (I know SH3Cmdr and GWX are mighty good, but I don't think they're good enough to create CTD's before they even existed!)
d) some interesting user belief that as SH3Cmdr is the last thing they see before SH3 loads, *anything* that goes wrong in SH3 must be attributed to it.

But as anyone who has read the SH3Cmdr User Guide will know, SH3Cmdr is very particular in what it changes, especially when you are mid patrol (hence why it recognises such careers). It limits changes to those proven not to cause CTDs under normal usage (through repeated scenario testing).

I will state categorically that outside of testing I have never had a CTD while playing SH3 + GWX (all versions), ever. Call me a smartarse or whatever you like, but the reason is simple: basic housekeeping and knowing what I am doing (ie following "manufacturer's" instructions and taking no shortcuts because "they seem right"). Much like maintaining a car. ;) It can be done.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in this thread (indeed, any defensiveness may be an indication of guilt), but that's simply how it is.

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1149444)

Before installing GWX you must remove the SH3 Folder from My Documents.

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1149444)

Before installing GWX you must remove the SH3 Folder from My Documents.

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1150073)

Did you clean the registry files?

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1150090)

Well there is something still in there that is causing the crashes.

You stated you've used MultiSH3 in the past....have you left any files at all relating to SH3 in C\MyDocs, perhaps an installation save with a different name?

Originally Posted by Contact (Post 1150097)

No, everything was deleted that was related to any SH3 in the installation directories and in my documents. Have you tried doing the same Jim to see if it crashes too ? Try scrolling the map wildely for about a minute and see if it's not going to crash please.

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1150173)

I was unable to create a ctd I'm afraid, but the crash could be down to the specs of your machine, a high number of units rendered within your vicinity or a combination of both.