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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1117016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Xvy1r4Pm8

Is that the price we all have to pay for being pro-europe? yes minister. too funny.

Defending the in-defenseable.

I think I understand the reason for the EEC and by extension the EU. Parity with the US. But now that we have a weak executive will the EU step up and take responsibility? This is the long wanted chance for the EU and its member nations to show what they are worth.

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1117019)

Highly unlikely....they can seldom agree with one another on just about everything :nope:

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1117003)

I don't inderstand RIS. Is that the EU secret police?

RIS? I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1117038)

Highly unlikely....they can seldom agree with one another on just about everything :nope:

That shows how little I understand. But I want to. before our current executive it was our falt for the worlds problems. now that we have a weak president...will the EU step up and protect me and my family?

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Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1117044)

RIS? I don't get it.

Thank you for your help Letum. I was under the impression that moderators were helpful. Perhaps I was wrong.

You wrote RIS and i didn't understand it. Just looking for clarification. Can you help me?

'RIS' is slag for "I don't get it".

I'm certainly not a moderator, despite being temporally on the list, but I do
apologize if I have been at all unhelpful.

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Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1117049)

'RIS' is slag for "I don't get it".

I'm certainly not a moderator, despite being temporally on the list, but I do
apologize if I have been at all unhelpful.

Thank you for your response...RIS means I don't get it. RIS as to how that happened. :DL Crazy!

Looks like over 100 reformists have been arrested, along with protesters in the streets who had to chase of secret police who had infiltrated the crowds. Foreign media services have been suspended and the offices for the opposition political parties have been more or less blockaded to prevent them holding press conferences.

There hasn't been this much open and public dissent towards the Iranian leadership for 30 years. They thought they could strengthen their position by rigging an election, but instead they've stirred up a hornets nest... I only hope they don't go the way of the Chinese when it comes to silencing public dissent.

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Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb (Post 1117240)

Thanks for the update.

I wouldn't worry so much about public dissent as I would about Israeli action.

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1116881)

He is one of the Mullah's.

Somewhat true, but he's basically above your average member in terms of authority because he's seen as one of the most distinguished members (due in part to several reasons, including extreme devotion to the Moslem faith, an expert amount of knowledge on the Qur'an, and also having passed and proven himself worthy through a few tests).

Think of him as their version of a really high ranking cardinal. He's not exactly like a pope, however, since he's not a Grand Ayatollah. That would go to Khamenei (he's the supreme Iranian leader).

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090614...t-a7ad41d.html

Some more information on the election, by jamming foreign media aren't they basically confessing their guilt in their actions? Isn't it against some sort of treaty to jam civilian satellites?

The problem with this whole situation, for me, is that it's impossible to know what to believe. News reports coming out of Tehran about massive protests, suspected vote-rigging, do not necessarily convince me. It's possible the people want a new leader and the opposition carried the most votes...but it would not shock me if the yahoo Akmadeenajad (sp) they currently have won a majority and the losing party is trying to overthrow him in the street. Who knows?

Britian and the US violated the most holy of democratic principles once before with Iran. I hope we learned our lesson.

Perhaps you can't trust the news reports, but how in the hell did they count all of those votes and announce the winner in just two hours after the polls closed?

Plus the mind set of the nation of Iran's true leader (forgot his name) said several years ago, "Go ahead nuke us ... were going to heaven anyway"

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Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 1117344)

Plus the mind set of the nation of Iran's true leader (forgot his name) said several years ago, "Go ahead nuke us ... were going to heaven anyway"

His name is Khamenei. And I would like to see a citation of that statement as that does not sound at all like the language Khamenei uses in his statements.

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1117346)

His name is Khamenei. And I would like to see a citation of that statement as that does not sound at all like the language Khamenei uses in his statements.

Second'd.

It seems to me that Ahmadinedschad's "election helpers" were somewhat over-motivated and did their job a little bit too good :cool:.

Although i think he might have won anyway i still find it highly questionable that he got even better result than last time. During the last election there were lots of non-voters due to an obvious lack of (moderate) alternatives but this time they made their cross.

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1117327)

I assume there has been vote-rigging, but I also assume that the West and Mussawi have underestimated the popularity of the conservatives in the rural places of Iran, as I also said it was like 15 years ago. I think evenb without vote-rigging Ahmadinejadh would have won, maybe just not by such a wide margin.

What is true of Turkey, is true for Iran as well: do not conclude from the major huge cities, which are more open and liberal, on the rural areas where the majority of the population lives. In both countries, the population in these latter places are arch-conservative.

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1117346)

His name is Khamenei. And I would like to see a citation of that statement as that does not sound at all like the language Khamenei uses in his statements.

It could have been another Iraian leader, because it was about three years ago. I had limited time to search today, perhaps tomorrow I'll have more time.

However I did locate this Iraian student:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080121020057AAcQELh

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i'm from tehran. i am a student in political science of tehran university and i want u to know this, cause i think most of americans except your leaders and your top political professors don't know it.

THIS IS IT:

but khamenei even love to bush attack them even with nuke bombs cause it changes our people and make them his allies, it makes our poeple to defend iran with most of their ability and make them love ahmadinejad and khamenei and that's make them happy more

and u should know they don't care about how much our people gonna die or wounded, they would tell u they will og to heaven!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also found this ex-Iran/CIA agents comments interesting:

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Simple, we nuke them before they nuke us. But we won't we'll negotiat with those ..... You put this phrase in quotation marks so go ahead give me the source of these ..... so long as they're going to heaven, and will do anything necessary to ...... 'Ali Khamenei: “When the president of the Iranian people travels to ...
pajamasmedia.com/blog/former-cia-agent-in-iran-comes-in-from-the-heat/

Going public for the first time in an article and interview on Pajamas Media, an Iranian who infiltrated Iran's Revolutionary Guard for the CIA accuses the mullahs of orchestrating — among other things — the 1988 explosion of Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/former-cia-agent-in-iran-comes-in-from-the-heat/2/

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Khamenei put out a statement to the world in 2008 that God would punish Iranians if they did not support the country’s disputed nuclear program, and any stop in the continuation of the nuclear work would be against God’s will. Ahmadinejad, in a recent 2008 speech, told the audience that the “enemy” (referring to the U.S. and Israel) and their superficial power are on a path to destruction, and that the countdown to their total destruction has begun.