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August 05-26-09 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1096952)
"homophobic"

The implication of that term being that if you oppose gay marriage, gay adoption, gay anything you have some kind of mental problem.

AVGWarhawk 05-26-09 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1107666)
The implication of that term being that if you oppose gay marriage, gay adoption, gay anything you have some kind of mental problem.

I'm fully aware of the definition:03: Heterphobic...is there such 'condition' or term:hmmm:

SteamWake 05-26-09 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1107655)
Ut oh, now we know it will get real dirty



When ever a political party (any political party) says it will act fairly, get your bullet proof vest on quick!!!

Let me put it this way. They have nothing to gain by 'going negative' on this for a couple of reasons.

First they dont want to appear to be obstructionists as the democrats were.

Secondly they dont really have the ability to block this confirmation in the first place so why look an ass?

It will be interesting to watch the vetting process as I said way back at the beginning of this thread. Although my 'gut' tells me this is a done deal.

geetrue 05-26-09 11:25 AM

Sonia Sotomayor won :yeah:

She looks good to me, but first the GOP will have to check her out to make sure she's not a gay commie sleeper cell inserted by an unkown terroist group.


Text of Sonia Sotomayor's remarks on Tuesday after President Barack Obama announced her nomination to the Supreme Court, as transcribed by CQ Transcriptions. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hZJQu1IgIB1qznbDtUVPsfVYE9kgD98E0EV00

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SOTOMAYOR: I was just counseled not to be nervous.
That's almost impossible.
Thank you, Mr. President, for the most humbling honor of my life. You have nominated me to serve on the country's highest court, and I am deeply moved.
I could not, in the few minutes I have today, mention the names of the many friends and family who have guided and supported me throughout my life, and who have been instrumental in helping me realize my dreams.
I see many of those faces in this room. Each of you, whom I love deeply, will know that my heart today is bursting with gratitude for all you have done for me.
The president has said to you that I bring my family. In the audience is my brother, Juan Sotomayor — he's a physician in Syracuse, New York; my sister-in-law, Tracey; my niece, Kylie — she looks like me. My twin nephews, Conner and Corey.
I stand on the shoulders of countless people, yet there is one extraordinary person who is my life aspiration. That person is my mother, Celina Sotomayor.
My mother has devoted her life to my brother and me. And as the president mentioned, she worked often two jobs to help support us after dad died. I have often said that I am all I am because of her, and I am only half the woman she is.
Sitting next to her is Omar Lopez, my mom's husband and a man whom I have grown to adore. I thank you for all that you have given me and continue to give me. I love you.
I chose to be a lawyer and ultimately a judge because I find endless challenge in the complexities of the law. I firmly believe in the rule of law as the foundation for all of our basic rights.
For as long as I can remember, I have been inspired by the achievement of our founding fathers. They set forth principles that have endured for than more two centuries. Those principles are as meaningful and relevant in each generation as the generation before.
It would be a profound privilege for me to play a role in applying those principles to the questions and controversies we face today.
Although I grew up in very modest and challenging circumstances, I consider my life to be immeasurably rich. I was raised in a Bronx public housing project, but studied at two of the nation's finest universities.
I did work as an assistant district attorney, prosecuting violent crimes that devastate our communities. But then I joined a private law firm and worked with international corporations doing business in the United States.
I have had the privilege of serving as a federal district court trial judge, and am now serving as a federal appellate circuit court judge.
This wealth of experiences, personal and professional, have helped me appreciate the variety of perspectives that present themselves in every case that I hear. It has helped me to understand, respect and respond to the concerns and arguments of all litigants who appear before me, as well as to the views of my colleagues on the bench.
I strive never to forget the real world consequences of my decisions on individuals, businesses and government.
It is a daunting feeling to be here. Eleven years ago, during my confirmation process for appointment to the Second Circuit, I was given a private tour of the White House. It was an overwhelming experience for a kid from the South Bronx.
Yet, never in my wildest childhood imaginings did I ever envision that moment, let alone did I ever dream that I would live this moment.
Mr. President, I greatly appreciate the honor you are giving me, and I look forward to working with the Senate in the confirmation process. I hope that as the Senate and American people learn more about me, they will see that I am an ordinary person who has been blessed with extraordinary opportunities and experiences. Today is one of those experiences.
Thank you again, sir.

Platapus 05-26-09 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1107703)
Secondly they dont really have the ability to block this confirmation in the first place so why look an ass?


That only applies if 100% of sitting Democratic Senators all vote the same way. The chances of that happening are pretty slim.

This is why all the hub-bub about the magic 60 members is really unimportant.

As the past five months have demonstrated, the Democratic Senate aint no rubber stamp Senate when it comes to President Obama.

Which is a good thing :up:

AVGWarhawk 05-26-09 11:58 AM

I think she will be just fine....has she paid her taxes:hmmm:

CastleBravo 05-26-09 12:46 PM

This alone is enough to disqualify her in my opinion. She seems to have not read the US Constitution either.

Judge Sonia Sotomayor: Court is Where Policy is Made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfC99LrrM2Q

SteamWake 05-26-09 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1107734)
That only applies if 100% of sitting Democratic Senators all vote the same way. The chances of that happening are pretty slim.

This is why all the hub-bub about the magic 60 members is really unimportant.

As the past five months have demonstrated, the Democratic Senate aint no rubber stamp Senate when it comes to President Obama.

Which is a good thing :up:

LOL the rubber stamp will come out when it is politically expediant. This is one of those cases. Just you wait and see.

Platapus 05-26-09 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1107780)
This alone is enough to disqualify her in my opinion. She seems to have not read the US Constitution either.

Judge Sonia Sotomayor: Court is Where Policy is Made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfC99LrrM2Q

Sounded like she was just acknowledging the reality of the situation.

Any time there is a judicial interpretation of a law, there is policy set.

Anytime the court promulgates that a law is or is not constitutional, judicial policy is made.. Judicial policy, not legislative policy. When critics say that the courts should not legislate from the bench, they are correct, however seldom do courts do this. They do, however, set judicial policy from the bench... in fact, that is what they are supposed to do.

This is why the SCOTUS is populated with justices and not simply constitutional scholars.

If all the SCOTUS was supposed to do is read the constitution there would be no need for justices. The job could be better handled by constitutional scholars and historians.

The job of the SCOTUS is to interpret the constitution with regards to other laws, precedents, our changing cultures and probably a hundred other factors.

This is also one of the reasons the SCOTUS is able to set judicial precedent and the fact that their precedents carry much more weight than lower court precedents. A precedent is an interpretation. An official interpretation in fact.

There is much more to being a SCOTUS justice then just being able to read the constitution. It requires the ability to interpret the constitution. This is why there are multiple justices and decisions require a majority vote.... different justices have different interpretations.

And this is a good thing.

Onkel Neal 06-02-09 10:32 PM

So, it appears the following people called it:

Aramike, baggygreen, JALU3, magic452, Neal Stevens, SteamWake, UnderseaLcpl

Just ask us if you need any political forecasting :D

Aramike 06-02-09 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1111275)
So, it appears the following people called it:

Aramike, baggygreen, JALU3, magic452, Neal Stevens, SteamWake, UnderseaLcpl

Just ask us if you need any political forecasting :D

:salute:

SWEET!!!

I really hope I get the mug ... Do I get any points for being the first to publically share my vote? :rock:

PS: Kudos to SteamWake for being the first to name the candidate!

Onkel Neal 06-03-09 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Aramike (Post 1111298)
:salute:

SWEET!!!

I really hope I get the mug ... Do I get any points for being the first to publically share my vote? :rock:

PS: Kudos to SteamWake for being the first to name the candidate!


Yeah, since you were the first, the mug is yours. PM your mailing address, mate.

SteamWake 06-03-09 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1111275)
So, it appears the following people called it:

Aramike, baggygreen, JALU3, magic452, Neal Stevens, SteamWake, UnderseaLcpl

Just ask us if you need any political forecasting :D

Okay... will Obama serve a second term? ;)

Aramike 06-03-09 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1111388)
Yeah, since you were the first, the mug is yours. PM your mailing address, mate.

Done.

Thanks!


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