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XLjedi 04-08-09 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1080056)
Either way, I'm sure Obama will apologize for it.

I think the only way you might get action in this administration would be to have a US sniper request authorization through Congress under the new healthcare plan to provide free forehead implants for all Somali pirates.

Max2147 04-08-09 01:11 PM

Q-ships wouldn't be effective against pirates. You need escorted convoys in the danger zone with strong aerial support. In other words, you need destroyers/frigates with multiple helicopters to make sure you always have a few choppers airborne at any time.

But the real solution can't come from the sea, it has to come from the shore. There needs to be a real government in Somalia to take care of their own problems. There are a lot of other poor African countries out there, but all of them except Somalia are at least able to keep their citizens from becoming pirates.

Skybird 04-08-09 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1080058)
He will address the pirates on public television saying we should be sensitive to their needs.

Sorry, we have beaten you to it. After the pirates attacking the German navy supply ship "Spessart" had been captured, they were handed over to Kenya today. A German government speaker today said that measurements had been undertaken that while being prisoners aboard the German warship "they would be better off than before " (quote), and that they have been given "nice blue overalls", "round-the-clock medical treatment, they had been assured that they would not need to fear the Germans, and to their religious needs special attention had been payed, so that they had not been given pork meat to eat. These are very religious criminal attackers, you know, believing in the religion of peace. Oh, btw, if they would steal not fromminfidel but Muslim ships, they would see their hands and feet chopped off.

AVGWarhawk 04-08-09 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1080151)
Sorry, we have beaten you to it. After the pirates attacking the German navy supply ship "Spessart" had been captured, they were handed over to Kenya today. A German government speaker today said that measurements had been undertaken that while being prisoners aboard the German warship "they would be better off than before " (quote), and that they have been given "nice blue overalls", "round-the-clock medical treatment, they had been assured that they would not need to fear the Germans, and to their religious needs special attention had been payed, so that they had not been given pork meat to eat. These are very religious criminal attackers, you know, believing in the religion of peace. Oh, btw, if they would steal not fromminfidel but Muslim ships, they would see their hands and feet chopped off.

Sounds to me like they bought off the pirates and as a result should stick to stealing boats that do not fly the German flag:hmmm:

August 04-08-09 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1080151)
Oh, btw, if they would steal not fromminfidel but Muslim ships, they would see their hands and feet chopped off.

Right. Like they did to the ones that hijacked that Saudi tanker...oh wait.

Enigma 04-08-09 02:23 PM

Sorry to interrupt this parade of ..well, whatever. But can someone point me to the time when Obama apologized for the capture of Americans or American interests? I'm really curious where we get our facts around here. Unless Neal is gospel, of course.

Max2147 04-08-09 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma (Post 1080198)
Sorry to interrupt this parade of ..well, whatever. But can someone point me to the time when Obama apologized for the capture of Americans or American interests? I'm really curious where we get our facts around here. Unless Neal is gospel, of course.

He's a Democrat and a liberal, therefore he must be soft on all things involving national defense. Only conservative Republicans are allowed to be strong.

At least that's the argument.

GoldenRivet 04-08-09 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1080217)
He's a Democrat and a liberal, therefore he must be soft on all things involving national defense. Only conservative Republicans are allowed to be strong.

At least that's the argument.

and pretty much true. Republicans wage war... democrats toss about a few pointless and arbitrary air strikes and call it a day.

Update... the Pirates still have the captain of the ship.

Onkel Neal 04-08-09 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma (Post 1080198)
Sorry to interrupt this parade of ..well, whatever. But can someone point me to the time when Obama apologized for the capture of Americans or American interests? I'm really curious where we get our facts around here. Unless Neal is gospel, of course.


What happened to your sense of humor?? Somali pirates hijack it? :O:

GoldenRivet 04-08-09 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1080371)
What happened to your sense of humor?? Somali pirates hijack it? :O:

yes... but he captured it back. :D

Enigma 04-08-09 05:43 PM

Not bad work for a liberal...

XLjedi 04-08-09 06:54 PM

Actually... if we could just reclassify the pirates as corporate CEO's; I think he could fire them!

Ishmael 04-08-09 08:16 PM

US Crew Retakes Maersk Alabama From Pirates.
 
I posted this on the Newsvine thread:

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This is what happens when you have a UNION crew.My Grandfather was a merchant seaman and sailed on the last of the square-riggers. His Sailor's Union of the Pacific Union card was signed by Andrew Ferusuth, the union's founder. My Dad was a merchant seaman all through WW2, and saw action in the Aleutians, North Africa, Sicily, Salerno, Anzio and Iwo Jima. He also did a year in San Quentin for Armed robbery. So he was shot at by representatives of all 3 Axis powers(4 if you count the Vichy French) and only ever used a weapon to commit a crime. He was a member of the Sailor's Union of The Pacific, The Seafarer's International Union and the National Maritime Union. I salute the brave men of the Maersk Alabama and honor their valor that stands in proud traditions of the United States Merchant Marine. As a former tin-can sonarman who sailed those same waters 30 years ago, I know the difficulty the Navy has patrolling these waters and salute my merchant brethren as Iron Men in Iron Ships. Splice the Main Brace for me.
Here's the Yahoo link.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090409/ap_on_re_af/piracy

Huzzah and Hully Gee!

Tchocky 04-09-09 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1080279)
and pretty much true. Republicans wage war...

Yes, SIR!

Permission to think, sir?

antikristuseke 04-09-09 02:54 AM

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sailed on the last of the square-riggers.
Do not try to read this sientnece when you have just woken up with a slight hangover, Took me a while to realize that it was riggers not ni...

My brain needs a kickstart.

Tchocky 04-09-09 03:00 AM

I've been at work for an hour already and this hangover isn't going away.

August 04-09-09 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 1080576)
Yes, SIR!

Permission to think, sir?


As long as you start thinking about your own country for a change. God knows Ireland could use the attention. :DL

Besides if you know your American history you'd know that when it comes to starting wars the Democrats have the Republicans beat by a wide margin.

SteamWake 04-09-09 08:18 AM

Somehow the crew regained control of the ships yet the 'pirates' continue to hold the capitan hostage.

The US has sent a Destroyer to the area.

What a destroyer is going to do other than intimidate, its not like they are going to sink the merchant.

Jimbuna 04-09-09 09:38 AM

After failing to grasp the positives around the convoying system at the outset of both world wars.....surely now is the time to give it some serious thought.

We are not talking about U-boats or FAC hare....but medium size motor/speed boats at best.

Surely two frigate sized ships, each with a helicopter would suffice as an escort.

SteamWake 04-09-09 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1080738)
After failing to grasp the positives around the convoying system at the outset of both world wars.....surely now is the time to give it some serious thought.

We are not talking about U-boats or FAC hare....but medium size motor/speed boats at best.

Surely two frigate sized ships, each with a helicopter would suffice as an escort.

This all sounds well and good, however the costs would find themselves displaced into the goods being delivered at some point.

Dont know if its true or not but this ships cargo was listed as emergency food relief for Zambia.

Some more updates:

The captain is still being held hostage on a smaller boat which is now evidently out of gas.

The crew had a member of the 'pirates' held but gave him up in an attempt to free the captain which evidently failed.

Allegedly the captain gave himself up in order to 'free' the crew.


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