Naw it's about 6 steps beyond the end of the pier. To your left.

Did research it. Was proven to be a valid copy of the original one by investigators as well as researchers who got a chance to look at it. The copy was not a forgery, or a fake, or any of that nonsense. It was shown to be a valid, authentic copy. By United States law, it can be used.

Oh, Hawaii's Star-Bulletin and Advertiser newspapers published under their announcement sections documentation of his birth:

http://i41.tinypic.com/1zv7lld.jpg

Well, what have you got to say?

Et tu, August.....

Nah, I'm just teasing you. The pier is to the right! :D

But seriously, I did take the time to review that FEMA "prison" tape posted in the OP and all anyone wants to do is argue about the Obama birth certificate silliness?

There's 15 minutes of my life i'll never get back... :shifty:

That inward turned barbed wire was a deliberate contractor mistake so they could get paid to come back and turn it the other way:yeah: I believe the contractor was named Blagojevich or something like that.

Consider the entertainment value , what you should have done is follow a link from the first then repeat it a couple of times to get to some real paranoid conspircy theory stuff....honestly the networks couldn't buy that sort of talent for a comedy show ...plus of course you don't get the adverts doing it that way .

Thanks for the opening SUBMAN , it really shows that investing in Aluminium foil manufacturers is going to be a good investment now that the chosen emu has done his dance for the naysayers

Do the research! A certificate of live birth for Hawaii does not mean you were born there! You can get one as a minor if you become a citizen and Hawaii authoritys while admiting the document is real will not come out about if he was really born there. Notice that no Hospital is listed on the certificate. Ive never seen a birth certificate without a hospital listed.

The real issue isn't a birth certificate. It's that some Americans still can't accept that a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama can ever be a real American.

To all those who are making an issue about Obama's birth certificate: If a white Republican President named John Smith produced a birth certificate that looked like that, would you say he wasn't an American? Didn't think so.

Well said Max:yeah:
The one that realy tickles me is thse that say "this couldn't happen in Europe"
Which is like saying a welsh fella couldn't be Prime minister of the UK

FYI this whole thing was started by a Democrat. A Clinton supporter unhappy his candidate didn't get the nomination. Maybe doing a little research before you lay the blame at the Republicans feet might be in order?

Oh and answering your own questions in the same post like you were actually giving someone a chance to answer is lame.

Do YOUR research. Hawaii's statute 338, for children born out of the country having the ability to legally obtain a birth certificate, was not enacted until 1982. Since Obama was born in 1961, his parents could have not under any circumstances gotten a birth certificate if he was in fact born in Kenya as some claim.

Some don't. Here's a copy of a short-form birth certificate:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../Shortform.gif

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Don't waste your breath (or maybe fingertips would be a better expression), August. There's nothing you can do to convince him that anyone who didn't vote for the Obamameister isn't a racist.

I was willing to give him the benefit of doubt I was.

Yep, my bad, I should have, too. Just the whole tone of the remark (especially the second sentence) led me to that conclusion.

Don't be silly , my kids may have a hospital listed but I don't and only one of my brothers has , though two of my aunts were brought out in hospital so would be listed .
Now I might say its a generational thing .....if it were not for the numbers of home births still nowadays

Don't be silly , my kids may have a hospital listed but I don't and only one of my brothers has , though two of my aunts were brought out in hospital so would be listed .
Now I might say its a generational thing .....if it were not for the numbers of home births nowadays

That may be but Irish regulations on the subject could easily be totally different than those of the State of Hawaii.

How would a home birth be verified, anyway? If there were no doctor present, who would testify as to the birth location. The parent would be the only one who could (unless witnesses were available). The existence of a birth certificate doesn't certify the birth location unless you're born in a hospital and a doctor attests to the birth.

Not that it matters, anyway.

Who said all those people was born in Ireland under Irish regulations .
Its not far off 200 years with the backs and forths that my family became yanks and then Irish again and then yanks then Irish an....still ongoing.
Birth in a hospital dn't mean ****all , but it does come in handy for paperwork ......unless the institution goes.

Nobody has to be a racist for this to be completely true.