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robbythesub 03-06-09 07:28 AM

Thanks guys- blimey I am even more confused as to which one will fit and which to go for now!
Love the site JC Wolf and I am STILL playing u boat 1.2, and looking forward to the update!

I shall need to spend many hours trying to decide which card to go for, but wont need it until I go back to the other PC in France late in April, so have time to work it out.

Meantime, my nvidea GS 7900 is running the game beautifully here....!

Cheers :sunny:

Wreford-Brown 03-06-09 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by robbythesub
Thanks and prsumably by power supply- you mean mains

The PSU power is very important - my computer had a 280W PSU so when I upgraded my graphics card I had to upgrade my PSU as well.

Most cards have a recommended minimum wattage - most of the new nVidias need 400W+ and I assume that the ATIs are similar.

bybyx 03-06-09 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by robbythesub
Thanks and prsumably by power supply- you mean mains power supply to the plug socket rather than power within the PSU?

I may go to nvidea as I prefer those, and do you know whether the GTS 250 will fit into my machine that has the ATI Radeon 2400 currently?

I am not that used to upgrading graphics cards, so dont want to buy one that doesnt fit obviously!

:up:

By power supply I mean the PSU. I have a Chieftec560W. If you want to know whether a new video card will fit, check your motherboard. Please give more details about your PC . For example:
CPU: Brand(Amd or Intel), model( Core2duo, Phenom, Athlon, Pentium Dual Core) , frequency(2.2GHz). This is important because you need to find a balance between cpu and videocard. A very slow cpu and a powerful video card it is not a good ideea as well as a powerful cpu and a very slow videocard.
MB: The way a post it earlier ( Gigabyte Ep43-ds3l). It is important in order to know what kind of slot you have for the videocard.
Ram: Type( ddr2 or ddr3, frequency) It always helps to have more Ram. 2gb it is minimal these days, 4gb it is great and 8gb it is fantastic.
PSU: like Antec, Corsair, Zalman or other brand and the power, like 500w or more, or less. The PSU is very important because it provides power to the components in your PC and all the modern videocard usually need another connector for power besides what they receive from the slot. Especially for a video card the most important thing is the +12volts rail or rails depending on the PSU and how many amps they have on that rail.
CASE: Your PC case is important because some of the big videocard of today are, well..., big and they don't fit in smaller cases.
If you are not sure what to do go to a computer store near you and ask for proper advice. An also if you have a friend who knows computers go with him. It is what I would do if I was in your place. However be careful because from my experience they will always try to persuade you to fool you especially when they smell that you don't know much about PC's.
PS:
Regarding the 250GTS please remember that this card is just a 9800gtx+ renamed GTS 250.

robbythesub 03-06-09 09:27 AM

Thanks- and here is my spec copied from dxdiag with the only change now that RAM is 3MB not 2.5 as on this list.

Machine name: PC-DE-USER
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Édition Familiale Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Acer
System Model: Aspire M1600
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 2558MB RAM
Page File: 826MB used, 4507MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode
------------
DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
---------------
Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x94C3)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_94C3&SUBSYS_E400174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 1140 MB
Dedicated Memory: 116 MB
Shared Memory: 1023 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Moniteur Plug-and-Play générique
Driver Name: atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.dat,atitmmxx.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.0549 (English)
DDI Version: 10
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2007 03:43:52, 3117568 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D783-11CF-DE76-0AC4A1C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x94C3
SubSys ID: 0xE400174B
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C

I appreciate your assistance on this matter, and I will have to check with a local store as the machine is in France currently and I am in England!

:up:

bybyx 03-06-09 10:36 AM

I looked over you data but I still can't find info about video card. Since it is a Ati do the following:
Go to Catalyst Control Center and look for the info like I posted in the screen shot:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1368/55180583.png
If it is a PCI express then you need one such card, and by looking at your Pc, I personally would not buy something more than a Ati 3850 ar something similar from Nvidia like the 9000 series. However it it is a AGP card the you choices are more limited.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...on%20HD%203850

robbythesub 03-06-09 11:04 AM

Thanks and I will have to keep that on record for when I go again- I can see the word PCI in amongst the data above, so maybe it is a PCI BUS ? :up:

bybyx 03-07-09 02:43 AM

Put a screen capture here to be sure.

shegeek72 03-07-09 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 4H_Ccrashh
Overclocking can cause issues with older games. Any of you who were around and computing back in the days of the old 8088 , 286, 386, 486, 486DX2 and 486DX4 days will remember that when you upgraded your computer sometimes the old games wouldn't work anymore. You had too much horsepower. Back then we did stuff like turning off emm386.exe and not using any extended or expanded memory functions to get old games to work.

Yer showing your age. ;)

Me too. I remember when Doom 1 was bleeding edge and 16 megs of RAM was smokin' and cost $600!
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robbythesub 03-07-09 03:49 AM

I can remember having a spectrum with a submarine game whose name escapes me, and droning across an empty blue patch for days without seeing the one enemy ship in the game!
That was the grass roots of my love of SH3 though I am sure! :up:

IFRT-WHUFC 03-07-09 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by robbythesub
I can remember having a spectrum with a submarine game whose name escapes me, and droning across an empty blue patch for days without seeing the one enemy ship in the game!
That was the grass roots of my love of SH3 though I am sure! :up:

If it's the same game i had on the Amstrad 6128 then that would be Silent Service!!

great game for its time!!

Rick

robbythesub 03-07-09 07:41 AM

Yes thats right- it was the original Silent Service and a cracking game for this time!

How things have changed is amazing! :salute:


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