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August 02-06-09 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
Krugman sums up my feelings exactly.....

Why is Republican support so vital Enigma? Don't the Democrats have the numbers in Congress to pass their own bill?

Aramike 02-06-09 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
...and by the way, re: the OP, could you point out for me where the word "now" is in the article you posted? And while your there, point out what the "fear tactics are? Because, well....

"This recession might linger for years. Our economy will lose 5 million more jobs. Unemployment will approach double digits. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse,"

...this is true. This isn't issuing ridiculous terrorist alert levels raised the day before a major political event. This is reality....

Terrorist attacks have actually happened recently and have precedence. Our economy suffering unrecoverable damage has NOT happened recently - or ever - (economic strength is cyclical) and has no precedence.

This is fear-mongering at its worst. The "Stimulus" package does nothing to stimulate the economy. It's nothing more than an orgy of liberal agenda spending and it should sicken ALL Americans that certain politicians are using our current economic hurt to advance their pet causes. They know that Americans want a bill passed sooner than later, so they're using that urgency to force through crap that can't pass on its own.

Enigma 02-06-09 02:15 AM

:yawn:

Aramike 02-06-09 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
:yawn:

Smilies are a great way of making a statement without actually having to flex the intellectual "muscles" required to make a point, right? :doh:

Rockstar 02-06-09 09:27 AM

I thought this article interesting. I for one always thought during the whole campaign Obama wasn't the one running. Rather he was propped up as the front man by old farts in the back rooms of power who hadn't a chance of being president themselves.

Because they're pulling his strings there will be no leadership from him only confusion and mismanagment. I suspect at the end of four years he will only be the fall guy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...502766_pf.html


btw I am partial to Krauthammer I think he's reasonable in his observations

Digital_Trucker 02-06-09 09:54 AM

Obama claims that we must pass HIS economic stimulus package now or things will get much worse, but he's just now getting around to get economic advice from outside of DC?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/07/bu...7web-econ.html

Is it just me, or does it sound a bit strange for one side of his face to be saying he knows what needs to be done and the other side of his face to be saying he needs advice from outside of Washington to know what to do?:hmmm:

Enigma 02-06-09 11:48 AM

Hey, January's numbers are out!

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*January job losses: 598,000
*Job losses from Nov-Jan: 1.8 million
*Unemployment rate: 7.6%
*Unemployed workers: 11.6 million
Yeah, no hurry....

August 02-06-09 12:05 PM

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Yeah, no hurry....
What's the matter, my question too difficult to answer?

Let me ask it again. How does it become the Republicans fault when the majority party in congress can't get it's own legislation passed?

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UnderseaLcpl 02-06-09 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
Hey, January's numbers are out!

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*January job losses: 598,000
*Job losses from Nov-Jan: 1.8 million
*Unemployment rate: 7.6%
*Unemployed workers: 11.6 million
Yeah, no hurry....

That also completely ignores the question of whether or not the stimulus bill will address the problem properly. Considering that virtually every measure the government has ever taken to address economic crises has essentially failed entirely, as well as costing a great deal of money, I'd say it is a valid concern.

SteamWake 02-06-09 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl
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Originally Posted by Enigma
Hey, January's numbers are out!

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*January job losses: 598,000
*Job losses from Nov-Jan: 1.8 million
*Unemployment rate: 7.6%
*Unemployed workers: 11.6 million
Yeah, no hurry....

That also completely ignores the question of whether or not the stimulus bill will address the problem properly. Considering that virtually every measure the government has ever taken to address economic crises has essentially failed entirely, as well as costing a great deal of money, I'd say it is a valid concern.

Well not ALL have failed miserably. The Regan tax breaks were fairly effective.

But what is being legislated right now :hmmm: the phrase 'money pit' comes to mind.

UnderseaLcpl 02-06-09 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake
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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl
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Originally Posted by Enigma
Hey, January's numbers are out!

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*January job losses: 598,000
*Job losses from Nov-Jan: 1.8 million
*Unemployment rate: 7.6%
*Unemployed workers: 11.6 million
Yeah, no hurry....

That also completely ignores the question of whether or not the stimulus bill will address the problem properly. Considering that virtually every measure the government has ever taken to address economic crises has essentially failed entirely, as well as costing a great deal of money, I'd say it is a valid concern.

Well not ALL have failed miserably. The Regan tax breaks were fairly effective.

But what is being legislated right now :hmmm: the phrase 'money pit' comes to mind.

When I say "government measures" I mean legislation and the like. I'd lump letting people have their own money in with market economics. Sorry for not being more clear.:oops:

In any case, there is a lot of public controversy over the "money pit" right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnX-D4kkPOQ


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