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Carotio 01-09-09 01:56 PM

I have played SH1, SH2, SH3 and SH4

Let me answer with a quote from the porn industry:
once you go black, you'll never go back :|\\

Meaning why stick with obsolete software like SH3, when the SH4 software is the newest? :doh: And with modding software like S3D made public for all, everybody can create their own supermod. :yep:
I'm not awaiting others to perfectionize my game. I do it myself. :arrgh!:

So yes, go buy it, if your hardware can handle it, or upgrade it, so it can.
It's worth it. :up:

XLjedi 01-09-09 02:15 PM

Prior to the Gold edition release, I would've said, "Don't even bother..."

However, if you buy the Gold edition there are several good reasons to make the move.

1) Playing with a type IX in the Indian Ocean is a fresh experience

2) Using scout planes to help locate targets.

3) Better graphics obviously, but more importantly, higher resolutions and 16:9 without screen distortion.

4) The ship AI is much less predictable once they've detected you. They don't just zig-zag like a nice little snake in a straight line, they take real evasive action and move in a far less predictable manner.

5) The familiar TDC interface is back (and essentially unchanged) on the attack map (something woefully lacking for US fleetboats) just like it was in SH3.

6) Refueling and rearming is allowed, and very simple.

7) Greater time compression, and lots of refueling options allow you to make long journeys far less painful.

8) And of course, eventually, you might decide to take a spin in a US Fleetboat.

9) Seems to run smoother and load faster than my SH3/GWX install (under Vista 64)



Still a couple small items that may disappoint the SH3 fan:

1) Lacking an Atlantic Theater Campaign (ATO)
(thankfully Lurker provided the Operation Monsun mod, and I'm hopeful for continued work in this area)

2) For ATO mods, it would've been nice to have the type II and VII models to play with.

FIREWALL 01-09-09 02:21 PM

I don't think there is or ever will be a perfect Sim out of the box. :know: :smug: :D

That's why the Great Power made Modders. :D :rotfl:

gordonmull 01-09-09 02:33 PM

I first went into the depths on silent service II and I loved that game, so i've nothing against the pacific theatre at all but I'd still say III is the most immersive of the last two SH's and has a much more intuitive interface. I also miss the clickability of bits of the sub that III had and IV doesn't. There's more compartments in 3D on III as well IIRC.

Saying that, though, I definitely don't regret buying IV, it entertained for a good while and the Op Munsoon mod is excellent. I'd go for it, everyone's different and it might be the best game you ever played! You'll get more hours of entertainment out of it for less cash than you would spend in the boozer in the same time, so look at like that and give it a try.

AVGWarhawk 01-09-09 02:41 PM

If you look hard enough you can pick up the gold edition for $20.00. That is more than enough reason to buy it. SH3 is truly a good game stock and an awesome game with GWX installed over top. SH4 is graphically better then SH3. As far as mods, there are plenty to be had that change the entire face of SH4...RFB, OM, TMO, PE4, EE 5.0. The only issue with the game and to really appreciate what you have requires a computer with a bit of a$$ to run it. Once you can run the game full tilt on your rig do you really appreciate the new goodies offered in the game.


Other than that, buying the game supports further developments in the sub simulation that all members here enjoy.

XLjedi 01-09-09 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Other than that, buying the game supports further developments in the sub simulation that all members here enjoy.

Yeah, I picked up a copy of the Gold Edition even though I already had SHIV just to vote more dollars toward a genre that I like (and would prefer not to see disappear). :up:

mookiemookie 01-09-09 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronblood
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Other than that, buying the game supports further developments in the sub simulation that all members here enjoy.

Yeah, I picked up a copy of the Gold Edition even though I already had SHIV just to vote more dollars toward a genre that I like (and would prefer not to see disappear). :up:

I'd say this is the best reason of all. :sunny:

FIREWALL 01-09-09 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie
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Originally Posted by aaronblood
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Other than that, buying the game supports further developments in the sub simulation that all members here enjoy.

Yeah, I picked up a copy of the Gold Edition even though I already had SHIV just to vote more dollars toward a genre that I like (and would prefer not to see disappear). :up:

I'd say this is the best reason of all. :sunny:

:up: Another reason I did the same.

Ping Panther 01-09-09 03:46 PM

So, is it certain that the "Gold edition" of SH4 provides a better game than a fully patched non-Gold version? (in graphics, interface...?) I have a pre-Gold disk... I'd get the Gold now if it really mattered to the install. Could someone help clarify this a little more? :hmm:

FIREWALL 01-09-09 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ping Panther
So, is it certain that the "Gold edition" of SH4 provides a better game than a fully patched non-Gold version? (in graphics, interface...?) I have a pre-Gold disk... I'd get the Gold now if it really mattered to the install. Could someone help clarify this a little more? :hmm:

Just to have it. :D As AVG said it's in the 20 buck range.

XLjedi 01-09-09 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ping Panther
So, is it certain that the "Gold edition" of SH4 provides a better game than a fully patched non-Gold version? (in graphics, interface...?) I have a pre-Gold disk... I'd get the Gold now if it really mattered to the install. Could someone help clarify this a little more? :hmm:

Well, the uboat missions is also known as patch 1.5. I don't know how many mods of the future will only work for 1.5 or if it's even an issue. But fact is, you have to either buy the D'L version or get the Gold version to be up to speed. Sounds like you can get the gold version now for nearly the same price as the 1.5 D'L so why not?

Good grief, you'd think we were talking about like a $1000 upgrade or something... :doh:

It's $20 bucks people! Pack a lunch a few days next week and save up!

Freiwillige 01-09-09 04:19 PM

Had Silent Hunter and I loved it but......Aces of the deep ruled my roost far mor often. Then command aces of the deep came out and I played the (Expletive) out of it until about 5 years ago. Still all the while Silent Hunter was played in bits and peices in the background.

Then Silent Hunter II came out and I bought it. I loved the modern look but the limitations of the game soon revealed themselves with scripted missions etc. Gave it away and back to SH, AOD!

SH III was released and I looked at it in the store quiet a few times but I couldnt get the taste of SH II out of my mouth. So I never bought it and I never looked it up having lost internet for a few years and being heavily into IL2 series when I was browsing the net.

Then came my whonderfull girlfriend to the rescue. She ordered a game CSI: miami online from amazon and asked if I would like a game too. So the first game that popped up under the "The persons that bought this also bought" SH III. She asked whats a U-boat? Would you want a U-boat game its only 10$. So I said yes and while waiting for the mail I watched Videos on youtube and just about went into heart failure! I saw GWX2.0 and read about it and saw all the mods and I couldnt wait to get my copy!!!:up:

AVGWarhawk 01-09-09 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronblood
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Originally Posted by Ping Panther
So, is it certain that the "Gold edition" of SH4 provides a better game than a fully patched non-Gold version? (in graphics, interface...?) I have a pre-Gold disk... I'd get the Gold now if it really mattered to the install. Could someone help clarify this a little more? :hmm:

Well, the uboat missions is also known as patch 1.5. I don't know how many mods of the future will only work for 1.5 or if it's even an issue. But fact is, you have to either buy the D'L version or get the Gold version to be up to speed. Sounds like you can get the gold version now for nearly the same price as the 1.5 D'L so why not?

Good grief, you'd think we were talking about like a $1000 upgrade or something... :doh:

It's $20 bucks people! Pack a lunch a few days next week and save up!

I do not believe the Gold Edition has anything better in game. Might be some more goodies in the package. All I know is, it is the full version inclusive of the U add on and patches. For a few shekels, it is worth having especially when you need to uninstall the game and reinstall for whatever reason. Hell, I did 2 uninstall and 2 installs just this week. No going to a website hoping they will give it up. Losing your SPECIAL CODE:o. Connection dies mid-download. Sending off a contact message hoping you might get a response from the site sometime this year. Screw all that. Besides, it has a really cool picture on the cover:p

FIREWALL 01-09-09 04:35 PM

As AVG pointed out... I like to hold my games in my grubby big hands. :D

Paul_IronCoffin 01-09-09 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiß Pinguin
Improved graphics? And automated watch changes. :lol: I've only played a little bit, as I found out too late my computer is not up to the task of running SHIV.

Same here. Though it runs on No.2 sons PC, and the only component he has better than I do, is the graphics card.

...I play on his pc now ;)

XLjedi 01-09-09 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul_IronCoffin
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weiß Pinguin
Improved graphics? And automated watch changes. :lol: I've only played a little bit, as I found out too late my computer is not up to the task of running SHIV.

Same here. Though it runs on No.2 sons PC, and the only component he has better than I do, is the graphics card.

...I play on his pc now ;)

At first I tried running it on my PC, an old AMD fx64 (over 5 years old now), with dual 6800 ultra cards running in SLI. Ran, but it ran slow.

Figured I'd need a whole new setup. So I started by picking up a pair of 9600gt's for about $150 each and slapped those in. Game runs without a hitch now, I think I can milk this setup for at least another year or two. ...and I was ready to go out and get a whole new moboard and CPU. Looks like I can avoid that for awhile longer.

At least for me, the biggest bottleneck was the GPU. Just one of those 9600's was able to outperform the dual 6800's. Looks like you can get an EVGA nVidia 9600gt these days in the $120 range on Amazon. Not too bad at all. I'm using the EVGA builds... not sure about the PNY's.

Weiss Pinguin 01-10-09 12:32 AM

As sad as this sounds, I don't think my computer even has AGP compatibility. In fact I'm sure it doesn't, as I have an AGP version of my current card (nVidia FX 5200... Just a little old) with twice as much memory sitting in my closet.

Someday...

bigboywooly 01-10-09 12:43 AM

Its always worth buying at the cheap prices its being knocked out at
And the more sales the more Ubi will keep the SH series going

Have both SH4 and the addon but rarely play it

Dont like the look of it - too cartoony
Thats my opinion of course
And its not cos its the PTO - I have to admit have little interest there but still give it a try - its the game itself
If SH4 was set in the Atlantic I still wouldnt play it

Has a vastly improved game engine and much quicker loading times but meh

Doesnt mean to say YOU wont like it though :up:

gimpy117 01-10-09 12:51 AM

yes...if you can run it..do it!!!

sh4 is not cartoony if you turn post process off as well

it's a great game and with mods and patches it is pretty solid

FIREWALL 01-10-09 01:08 AM

It's cartoony. Perfect for PTO. :rotfl:


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