Anti-sematism?
A quick Ctr+F search reveals that the words 'Semite' or 'Jew' Have not been mentioned
in this topic until now.
People seam to be talking about politics, nations and events, rather than religion or race.

Yes, from HAMAS. Yet, Israel hits Mosques and civilian targets. Hmm, what makes them any better than the terrorists?

Gaza ghetto: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...spitals-crisis

And some different news sources on Palestine and the ME
http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php

http://joshualandis.com/blog/

http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml

http://occupiedlove.blogspot.com/

and of course, again:
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

Well, this thread is aptly titled, in any case.

This is the kind of thing that is interesting to observe: people letting partisan views interfere with the facts. Seriously, the fact is that Isreal has been getting shelled by Palestinians in Gaza from well before their relatiation. This isn't something that's debatable - this is what actually happened.

People always seem to deplore the violence of those most effective at it. In other words, it doesn't matter that the Palestinians are lobbing mortar shells at Isrealis because those mortars are simply not very effective. However, when the Isrealis respond by firing back with more effective weapons, certain segments of the world get all up-in-arms over it.

I guess it's just a fascination with rooting for the underdog. Forgetting the cause and focusing solely on the effect is short-sighted.

How are those "civilians" any better than the terrorists if they abide them?

I'll buy into this argument when I start seeing the Palestinian protest marches against terrorism. There certainly are details and minutiae to debate but this point is a tad off-base, IMO.

Remember, the Palestinians ELECTED Hamas. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Hamas_wi...inian_election

This isn't a splinter unit acting alone.

Heil Arthur Balfour and Co. :down:

It would be like if the French people had marched to protest against the French Resistance during WWII. After all they were labelled "terrorists" too.

Protest against HAMAS in Gaza and you won't live long enough to tell the tale.;)

But I think you are right. Israel has been hit by mortars and Kassams (spelling?) for quite some time now. And it was just a question of time until the big guns would answer that.:-?

I think it is a never ending story. Both sides have too many idiots to achieve a durable peace down there.

Umm, you made my point.

The words don't need to be spoken. Its implied over and over here.

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Where?

The one sided information. But you already know this, so why the stupid response?

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Try being civil.


This thread is about Israel and Palestine, not religion. Show me where the Anti-Semitism is.
You say it's implied over and over. Show me where, in what posts?

That's a great idea for everyone in this thread. Try being civil to Israel.


First try knowing what the definition of what you are talking about before making comment:

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Show me where the Anti-Semitism is.
You say it's implied over and over. Show me where, in what posts?

Now I think you've lost it.

How about trying to show me where the hate filled posts here that are talking about the HAMAS rocket attacks first? They are all denoucing Israel and paying sympathy to the attackers. Or did you miss my post above that tells you it is completely lacking?

I've already told you. You are simply looking for a foothold where one doesn't exists. But as I said before, Europe has no problem murdering millions of Jews so this shouldn't be so shocking that it is all one sided.

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One thing that makes me laugh when watching the news on Palestine on French TV.
In Arabic "hamas" and "hezbollah" are pronounced much like in English, and should be pronounced in the same way in French. Yet I often hear "journalists" who speak about "rhamas" and "rhezbollah". You wonder why and you realize that this is the Hebrew pronounciation, so you easily guess where these journalists get their "info".

Wow! Obama finally impressed me!

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WASHINGTON — When President-elect Barack Obama went to Israel in July — to the very town, in fact, whose repeated shelling culminated in this weekend’s new fighting in Gaza — he all but endorsed the punishing Israeli attacks now unfolding.

“If somebody was sending rockets into my house, where my two daughters sleep at night, I’m going to do everything in my power to stop that,” he told reporters in Sderot, a small city on the edge of Gaza that has been hit repeatedly by rocket fire. “And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing.”

Translation: "cant".

You're missing the point completely.
Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism. Do you understand this?

You really haven't. I asked you to show the alleged anti-semitism of this thread and you responded with a definition of anti-semitism.

What do you mean, "Europe has no problem murdering millions of Jews"?
If you're thinking about the Holocaust, try to remember that a political regime in one European country does not mean the same thing as the entire continent. I know such distinctions are very subtle and difficult to grasp, but learning the fundamentals can really pay off sometimes.