Catalinas are sturdy bastards anyways, even two hits with AA wouldn't hurt it that much

It was a SunderLand.
I just checked the dat.
The Mark for the left wing is Parented to the
Right wing.
Guess I'll have to fix that eh?

oO I'm confused...

How do you know?

Meeh if that big gun from bismarck hit the catalina? And nothing happen? I doubt a solid AP shell will hit that plane easily.
They use AA shell, dont ask me how they work. I am not an army tech guy. However i know that they self detonate when they are close to a plane. It doesnt necessarly hit the plane, sometime it could blow next to a plane and still nothing happen.
I heard that AA is related to shock wave from explosion to blow those flies!


Oh wait, only speculation .........

Most period AAA Shells were equipped with either a time delay fuse, or a barometric fuse.

An artillery spotter would use mathematical formula to determine the altitude and speed of the target aircraft, then the appropriate amount of lead-angle and barometric fuse setting (or time delay setting) would be calculated.

Once these settings were complete, the AAA guns would fire a sort of box pattern along the flight path of the aircraft which the planes would have to fly through.

Though landing a direct hit with an AAA shell would be catastrophic for the aircraft in most cases, a direct hit was not relied upon to damage the aircraft. There have been cases of projectiles passing cleanly through a wing or fuselage surface and out the other side without exploding, causing a neat shell shaped hole but resulting in little overall structural damage to the aircraft.

instead of relying on direct hits, the shells would explode when they reached their preset barometric altitude (or time limit) sending fragmentation in all directions, some of which may or may not hit the aircraft (think mid-air hand grenade). This could cause damage ranging from a small acorn sized hole in the aircraft skin... all the way up to a section of the aircraft breaking off entirely depending on the proximity and severity of the "hit"

Explosive Anti Aircraft Artillery of this type is generally only effective when fired in large numbers by numerous guns. which is typically not the case in SH3 because most ships are only equipped with a few guns capable of firing such rounds, and we frequently encounter no more than 3 or 4 such warships at a time.

We could discuss this to no end... but in real life, (something GWX has tried to do well to simulate) there have been many hundreds of situations where a plane has been hit and should have never made it home BUT IT DID... or ground crews for bombers and fighters looked over the damaged wreck of a plane amazed at how it even came home BUT IT DID... despite all the calculations of war... LUCK has a hell of a lot more to do with it than one might think. :up:

Anytime a part gets shot off but something remains floating in limbo?
It means it was attached to another part.

All this is determined by IDs

I check those ID's

The only marker unit whose PARENT ID does not match for a wing is the Sutherland.

Easy.

He didn't say it was a wing, he said it was a roundel

you're missing the point.

Ogg shoot airplane.

Ogg see wing fall off airplane

but roundel stay in air next to airplane!

Ogg want know why this happen?!

well, it is because the "roundel" has been linked to another part of the aircraft within the model file (im assuming) and the roundel thinks that the part its attached to is still there... therefore instead of falling into the sea, it stays as if nothing happened.

Privateer searched though the files and determened... "AHHA!!! He must be talking about a sunderland as the only aircraft with it's roundel connected to something other than the wing is in fact the sunderland!"

and by using his super scientific process of elimination he has determined that the sunderland was the culprit aircraft.

this is the way i am understanding it.

Privateer... is this correct?

thanks

It happens...

http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/gtey...llMarkings.jpg

Well, I read Yamato had a special kind of AA ammo that was fired by her huge 18.1" guns! They put a terrific amount of shrapnel or HE in the air. I'm sure that somebody in this forum know this fact and can explain it better than me.

If Yamato had it, may be BB in ATO had too, but I don't know.

Ah, the Yamato had "beehive" shells. Scary on paper, but the gunners were no good, and the shells themselves screwed up the 18 inchers. The shrapnel was incendiary...

Anyways, the battleship was the Bismarck

Ah that's why...that means the weapon designer has planned everything in real life......

actually because it was the first time i played gwx i think it was a torpedo bomber.

but thier where so many planes around i was not sure.

and it wasnt the plane that was hit with some gun and its emblem remained in the air.

BOTH COMPLETERLY DIFFERENT THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

my thoughts exactly.... pity... or thankfully... we'll really never know which... the Bismark didn't stop those torpedo bombers in the final engagement like that. :-?

Doubt she would have gotten much farther, her fuel would run out sometime soon. The entire Royal Navy was after her.... she was dead as soon as the Hood went under