I forgot to mention that it is entertaining to watching someone who has no idea in the use of a firearm make statements like in this thread. Skybird, you should really come to the United States so that we can teach you what a firearm is. Until then, leave it to the experts over here. Thanks.

-S

Looks I need to get one to add to the collection! That thing's pretty nifty lookin'.

If he had gotten the FDA approval that he was seeking, and for a time the guy actually thought he had, it would have been dispensed as a medical assist device.

Would a doctor be risking his license by prescribing an FDA approved medical assist device?

The FDA didn't approve it and now he hopes to sell it as a firearm....so it's a mute point.

@Subman: I agree about the insurance end run as well.

First, do not lump the disabled with the senile. No one suggested selling this to the senile, only the physically impaired. The elderly are not ALL senile.

Making products designed for the disabled so they can operate devices you take for granted is a popular and profitable business globally.

The object is to make the product so we CAN operate it safely. You're statement suggests if we cannot operate a "normal" device it should not be reinvented or modified so the disabled can use it. I repeat....SAFELY.

I shoot a rifle, yet I could never operate an unmodified gun....or this goofy device being discussed here.

I DON'T TAKE FIREARMS FOR GRANTED. Just for the record.

Neither do I. That is why I took hunter safety courses, and dad, and gramps, and uncles, all military veterans taught me early how to safely handle them.

But you are correct, they should never be taken lightly. Care and caution should always be exercised. The time something bad happens is when you relax that care. That's why in 35 years I've not had a mishap, or even a close call. Though I've not hunted in 20 years as I don't care for the taste of the game out on the high plains Rocky Mountain region, compared to the midwestern states, and the northeast. And the game is tougher, and needs more prep work before cooking.

It's always the "unloaded gun" that kills someone, which is why mine is always loaded :D

:rotfl: Ditto...

As long as you and your gun aren't at the same time, it's fine. :lol:

Then don't buy one.

Nor could a senile man buy one. You can't sell to the mentally ill in the first place, so this thread is a waste of time.

-S

Yeah, we got that covered...:lol:



Also, see here...homicide with a firearm striking many, many times as one of the top 5 causes of death over various age groups.

ftp://ftp.cdc.gov/pub/ncipc/10LC-200...C-violence.jpg

The city I live in has broken it's own record for shootings, and for handgun related homicide this year, and the year ain't over yet.

Yeah, we know how to use guns.....

In the immortal words of Archie Bunker:

"Would you feel better if they was pushed out of windows instead?"

Enigma - I think the statistics need to be analyzed instead. This is a classic case of statistics not showing the true value of things. Take for example the population number for example. of course that is conveniently left out as is the total # of people dying from homicide, not just by method.

Something else that is glaringly omitted - crime statistics and violent crime in total per 100K people. The US can't touch the UK in that regard. If you are a criminal, go to the UK. Safe place to work there.

-S

Due to cultural practices and the amazing ubiquity of guns in this country, it's no huge surprise death by gun in this country is _MUCH_ greater than others.

That being said, I believe the right to gun ownership is an important one and should not be infringed (that means different things to me than to other people, I'm sure). It is good idea for people to be able to defend themselves without government employees around. And it would keep those authorities in check in very extreme cases.

It is a critical, important part of this country. People just need to be more careful with the things. My dad had A LOT of guns around the house when I was a kid. And I wouldn't have been able to get at any of them had I really wanted to. I knew where they were, he had the gun talk with me and gave me a safety demonstration, and he locked them up tight.

PD

Compared to these figures, guns are pretty safe:
from here.

As Subman said, numbers have to be looked at in a manner other than purely quantitative. Just looking at the pure numbers, one would think that operating a vehicle is more dangerous than operating a handgun. But when you look at the numbers in relation to the numbers of people doing the operating and the amount of time spent operating either, the numbers look very different.

Gun related violence is only connected towards anger. Murder is only commited when angry (or compulsively for serial killers)

Car accidents can be connected to a large number of things, distraction, stupidity, mechanical failure...The point is, there are much more causes for car accidents than gun violence.

I don't mind the current gun laws in the US, though I think there should be better screening for licenses. Too many people buy a gun without any idea of safety. This palm gun is a bad idea, seniors, even perfectly sane ones, aren't exactly known for their robustness. Unless the user was a veteran, I doubt the gun would even hit anybody. And when would you need to use it? If its a robbery, your possessions are hardly worth your life, or even theirs. And if its a determined murderer, a 9mm just won't stop them...

That was exactly my point. Numbers can't be looked at in a vacuum. They have to be analyzed to make any sense. BTW, gun related violence can be caused by all the same things as auto accidents (see the case of the 8 year old with the Uzi at the gun show who killed himself). Stupidity, distraction and mechanical failure are all causes of gun related deaths, too.

The trigger system on that thing looks quite precarious. It has a safety switch, right? That thing could be very dangerous in the back pocket when the owner decides to sit on it or something.

Especially if you play wide receiver for the New York Giants....